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    Quote Originally Posted by Jeremy View Post
    I didn't say the US has a huge trade deficit with Canada.

    If you are going to quote and refute my comment - please make your response dispute something I actually said.

    According to my information we have an 18 billion dollar trade deficit with Canada.
    Considering that most of the steel and aluminium comes from Canada and only a small percentage from China the impact on the US trade deficit with China is going to be pretty much zero. If the idea was to even out the trade deficit my point was that Canada is already in the red not the black so....

    Numbers provided by Statistics Canada, and the Office of the United States Trade Representative – both say the U.S. has a trade surplus with Canada, to the amount of US$12 billion.
    https://globalnews.ca/news/3898843/t...-donald-trump/
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    Quote Originally Posted by galatin View Post
    Interesting reaction.... but rather emotional..... When someone dislikes what others express and when he is unable to give a real reply to a point raised which probably even for him makes sens, it is much easier to find his contradictor arrogant than to be able to argue.
    No, what's actually emotional is thinking another country has the right to tell other countries what their trade policies should be. Because they don't.

    And it is arrogant for another country to try and tell others countries what their trade policies should be.

    So you're the one who is ignoring things here. The U.S. has a right to set its own trade policies. And that comment wasn't even a reply to something you had expressed - so you aren't making much sense.
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    Best be careful. Canada's going to take over the world. Then you'll all be sorry.
    I really hope the US is the first Country they take over. Sigh..... Justin deserves another pic posted out of respect for Canada.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eve1 View Post
    Considering that most of the steel and aluminium comes from Canada and only a small percentage from China the impact on the US trade deficit with China is going to be pretty much zero. If the idea was to even out the trade deficit my point was that Canada is already in the red not the black so....

    Numbers provided by Statistics Canada, and the Office of the United States Trade Representative – both say the U.S. has a trade surplus with Canada, to the amount of US$12 billion.
    https://globalnews.ca/news/3898843/t...-donald-trump/
    I'm more concerned about the impact our trade policies are having on American Steel industries than I am on Canadian steel industries. Sorry.

    This is also not about reducing a trade deficit with Canada. This is about protecting American jobs and steel manufacturers.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jeremy View Post
    No, what's actually emotional is thinking another country has the right to tell other countries what their trade policies should be. Because they don't.

    And it is arrogant for another country to try and tell others countries what their trade policies should be.

    So you're the one who is ignoring things here. The U.S. has a right to set its own trade policies and uour opinions about globilization had nothing to do with my comment.
    Who has "thought" another country has the right to tell other countries what their trade policies should be?

    You have a very combatitive attitude and that is what I understand is getting the NAFTA negotiators into some trouble as both Mexico and Canada are pretty fustrated with the USA.

    It might be the reason Trump picked them to negotiate for him but considering how many projects have actually been built by Trump that might explain a lot in terms of his failed business model. I certainly hope the USA does'nt end up like Trumps business. Trump doesn't actually build anything anymore, it just puts its label on things built elsewhere.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eve1 View Post
    Link? Yeah didn't think you actually have anything to back up what you claim Trudeau said. At least you are a consistant liar.
    http://torontosun.com/2017/03/03/tru...7-5676e9736bc1

    https://globalnews.ca/news/3875047/c...t-have-a-clue/

    (Yes, second one is a commentary, but it's about the quote I was referring to)

    Then there was the Khadr case, which I was torn about, but less so now that it's part of a trend.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eve1 View Post
    Who has "thought" another country has the right to tell other countries what their trade policies should be?

    You have a very combatitive attitude and that is what I understand is getting the NAFTA negotiators into some trouble as both Mexico and Canada are pretty fustrated with the USA.

    It might be the reason Trump picked them to negotiate for him but considering how many projects have actually been built by Trump that might explain a lot in terms of his failed business model. I certainly hope the USA does'nt end up like Trumps business. Trump doesn't actually build anything anymore, it just puts its label on things built elsewhere.
    I'm not interested in what you think about my attitude. Here is my post:

    Quote Originally Posted by Jeremy View Post
    Considering most of Canada's exports go to the United States a trade war with us would not be in their interests. But if they want to decimate their economy over a steel tariff then that's their business.

    Unlike some other countries - I'm not going to presume to tell other nations what their trade policies should be. Because I find the arrogance of these countries who think they can dictate to us what we can or can't tariff to be pretty off-putting so I'm not about to replicate that.
    That's what my post was about. I was making the point that each country has a right to set its own trade policies and it's really not for other countries to say. That post was not even directed Gelatin - who then went on to accuse me of being emotional to a response of his that I could not contradict or some such nonsense when that post was not even made in a response to him or anything he had said in the fist place. So if anyone was being combative it was him.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tedminator View Post
    All-out trade war: Canada vows to fight back if hit with Trump's tariffs | Financial Post

    Canada is vowing to retaliate if U.S. President Donald Trump makes good on his pledge to impose steep tariffs on steel and aluminum producers ó while holding out hope that it could be exempt.
    Trump said he intends to slap a 25 per cent duty on steel imports and 10 per cent on aluminum in order to protect the national industry, though details remain unclear. His words sent U.S.-based producers rallying but could hurt companies that ship steel and aluminum from Canada, including Rio Tinto Group and Stelco Holdings Inc., without an exemption.

    ďThe President has just initiated an all-out trade war,Ē said Jean Simard, chief executive officer of the Aluminum Association of Canada. Aside from the direct impact on the countries affected, Europe will need to protect itself from a flood of redirected metal because the U.S. is not an open market anymore, he said.
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    meh.. no specifics on how Canada will retaliate.
    Anyhoo trump declaring a trade war on our closest ally is not very neighborly.




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    I am not sure about vegan ... but that boy is in shape ...


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    And he can also box
    No, I know... he'd definitely beat me up.

    I just, when all he cared about was legalizing pot, I figured whatever he's not going to cause any harm.

    Now, he's even more dangerous than his father was
    ... if anything, this is a good reason to not vote in dynasties.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Darkman View Post
    Go pretty boy, go!
    Let them run off to China and trade with them instead (like Mexico is threatening to do to us) if they want. Once their manufacturing sector goes bust like ours did as a result I suspect you will see them crawling back to us with a lesson well- learned.

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