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    Interesting article in the NYTimes today about whether moving to the center as we are seeing in recent wins is the way to go or not. Some argue its going to make inequality worse not better and Sanders group calls them "republican lite."

    “The real message of Lamb’s campaign basically boiled down to this: ‘Look at what a fine young normal white fellow I am!’ ” Mosher wrote. The “clamor for centrism,” according to Mosher, risks deflating the Resistance, turning off nonwhite voters, and dampening the turnout that Democrats should be able to expect in November, given the level of Trump animus across the country."

    https://www.nytimes.com/2018/03/22/o...ft-center.html
    It's true, if you want people to vote, you have to give them something to vote for (or against). Maintaining the status quo ain't it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bajisima View Post
    Interesting article in the NYTimes today about whether moving to the center as we are seeing in recent wins is the way to go or not. Some argue its going to make inequality worse not better and Sanders group calls them "republican lite."

    “The real message of Lamb’s campaign basically boiled down to this: ‘Look at what a fine young normal white fellow I am!’ ” Mosher wrote. The “clamor for centrism,” according to Mosher, risks deflating the Resistance, turning off nonwhite voters, and dampening the turnout that Democrats should be able to expect in November, given the level of Trump animus across the country."

    https://www.nytimes.com/2018/03/22/o...ft-center.html
    Even if every 99%er in America was woke up and united in purpose to claim a fair share of this nation's wealth, the 0.01% would not just give up and go away.

    We are fighting for our survival, so our zeal is understandable. But the 0.01% fights for its greed, and this confuses us. We keep thinking they are also concerned with fairness, or that decency limits how far they will go to win.

    They aren't, and they won't.

    This will be a fight, literally.

    Whether we have to riot in the streets or not remains to be seen. If the 0.01% think they will win with bullshit, they'll be contented to use nothing more violent.

    But if they think they might lose, they'll hire thugs to break heads on citizens as we protest in the streets.

    They'll kill us. Quickly, slowly, doesn't matter except that as long as we live, they can extract wealth from our labor and our misery.

    They really do see us as soylent green.

    ALL of us. "Racism" is just the smoke bomb of confusion they throw. They don't GAF about any white 99%er, either.
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    Quote Originally Posted by labrea View Post
    It's true, if you want people to vote, you have to give them something to vote for (or against). Maintaining the status quo ain't it.
    Yea I do wonder the long term effects of it. Sure dems will undoubtedly win the House easily in Nov. but there will be a lot of Blue Dogs there. Many GOPers, particularly women, will cross over to vote for them. We just saw in the Illinois primary on Tuesday, approx 40% of GOPers took a dem ballot to secure the Blue Dog won. So yes short term its a winning strategy because of Trump. Long term? I dont know.
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    Quote Originally Posted by labrea View Post
    That is politics.
    Its disgusting. You would think politicians would want to be respected
    I guess, with our dumb voting base, they dont need it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Madeline View Post
    Even if every 99%er in America was woke up and united in purpose to claim a fair share of this nation's wealth, the 0.01% would not just give up and go away.

    We are fighting for our survival, so our zeal is understandable. But the 0.01% fights for its greed, and this confuses us. We keep thinking they are also concerned with fairness, or that decency limits how far they will go to win.

    They aren't, and they won't.

    This will be a fight, literally.

    Whether we have to riot in the streets or not remains to be seen. If the 0.01% think they will win with bullshit, they'll be contented to use nothing more violent.

    But if they think they might lose, they'll hire thugs to break heads on citizens as we protest in the streets.

    They'll kill us. Quickly, slowly, doesn't matter except that as long as we live, they can extract wealth from our labor and our misery.

    They really do see us as soylent green.

    ALL of us. "Racism" is just the smoke bomb of confusion they throw. They don't GAF about any white 99%er, either.
    Of course they would, they did it before, and they feel entitled.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Madeline View Post
    Even if every 99%er in America was woke up and united in purpose to claim a fair share of this nation's wealth, the 0.01% would not just give up and go away.

    We are fighting for our survival, so our zeal is understandable. But the 0.01% fights for its greed, and this confuses us. We keep thinking they are also concerned with fairness, or that decency limits how far they will go to win.

    They aren't, and they won't.

    This will be a fight, literally.

    Whether we have to riot in the streets or not remains to be seen. If the 0.01% think they will win with bullshit, they'll be contented to use nothing more violent.

    But if they think they might lose, they'll hire thugs to break heads on citizens as we protest in the streets.

    They'll kill us. Quickly, slowly, doesn't matter except that as long as we live, they can extract wealth from our labor and our misery.

    They really do see us as soylent green.

    ALL of us. "Racism" is just the smoke bomb of confusion they throw. They don't GAF about any white 99%er, either.
    We saw this after Reagan too. GOP was a mess and they brought conservative democrats into power. Then they turned their backs and voted for GW. This constant back and forth of voting makes inequality worse. I never thought I would see the DNC embrace some of these trade agreements. Its astounding. I understand why they are doing it, as global economists say they must because its a global economy, but its still surprising. Its always been republicans that just couldnt get enough trade agreements.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bajisima View Post
    Yea I do wonder the long term effects of it. Sure dems will undoubtedly win the House easily in Nov. but there will be a lot of Blue Dogs there. Many GOPers, particularly women, will cross over to vote for them. We just saw in the Illinois primary on Tuesday, approx 40% of GOPers took a dem ballot to secure the Blue Dog won. So yes short term its a winning strategy because of Trump. Long term? I dont know.
    I don't know either.

    Conservatives have worked long and hard establishing their think tanks, crafting their message, and selling it as fact. (How else do you explain selling trickle down yet one more time?)
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    Quote Originally Posted by TNHarley View Post
    Its disgusting. You would think politicians would want to be respected
    I guess, with our dumb voting base, they dont need it.
    Yeah, it took me a long time to accept that, in general, people are just about as dumb as conservatives think they are.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TNHarley View Post
    Its disgusting. You would think politicians would want to be respected
    I guess, with our dumb voting base, they dont need it.
    People don't become politicians because they crave respect.

    They do it because they crave power.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bajisima View Post
    We saw this after Reagan too. GOP was a mess and they brought conservative democrats into power. Then they turned their backs and voted for GW. This constant back and forth of voting makes inequality worse. I never thought I would see the DNC embrace some of these trade agreements. Its astounding. I understand why they are doing it, as global economists say they must because its a global economy, but its still surprising. Its always been republicans that just couldnt get enough trade agreements.
    Americans still don't understand what happened. The big slide began under CARTER, widely considered the most liberal president since WWII.

    And that is wrong.

    The ONLY liberal aka progressive president we've had since WWII was Eisenhower.

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