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    If trade wars are a pie fight, I need to invest my money in the guy making the pies.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BigLeRoy View Post
    I think this is all correct; and I think the only thing, the only policy idea that I have heard of, that will 'correct' this deep-seated fear, is the idea of a 'basic income' which would relieve people of the fear that they might fall into destitution, and become homeless vagrants. I suspect that over the next decade, we are going to be hearing more and more, and yet more, about the idea of giving EVERYONE a basic annual income. Then they can negotiate with employers to supplement that basic income.
    Good luck getting that idea across, it's a GREAT idea, but those Heartland voters will hear "but muh SOCIALISM" and that's all folks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jacquelope View Post
    Good luck getting that idea across, it's a GREAT idea, but those Heartland voters will hear "but muh SOCIALISM" and that's all folks.
    You're quite right about that. But their tune might change if they find themselves living in tent cities. We could call them Trumpvilles or Pencevilles, although I always liked the sound of Cheneyvilles.

    Back in the 1930's, they called them 'Hoovervilles'.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BigLeRoy View Post
    You're quite right about that. But their tune might change if they find themselves living in tent cities. We could call them Trumpvilles or Pencevilles, although I always liked the sound of Cheneyvilles.

    Back in the 1930's, they called them 'Hoovervilles'.
    I used to say that these people would rather turn to socialism than let their kids die of cancer if they can't afford the treatments.

    In 2018 I am not so sure they'd care that much about their own kids.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bajisima View Post
    Its such a disconnect and a bit of a problem for unions. They have been literally screaming since NAFTA passed about how awful trade agreements are and how they lost 700,000 jobs etc. Trump runs on exactly what they wanted and suddenly they are embarassed. Its very weird. I work with various construction union members and they really love this stuff. Many were Sanders guys, but they just love these anti trade leaders. Its an odd sight to see Sherrod Brown (D-OH) and rep Tim Ryan basically saying "we would do the same thing."
    I can't imagine what directions Brown must be getting pulled in with so much soybean production here in Ohio. Tightrope.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Blueneck View Post
    I can't imagine what directions Brown must be getting pulled in with so much soybean production here in Ohio. Tightrope.
    The Chinese are getting very serious about putting tariffs on soybeans, pork, and sorghum. Will really hurt those Farm Belt states that went for Trump.

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    The deadline that Sen Ryan gave as the latest possible date that a NAFTA deal could go through the current US Congress was yesterday. And the deadlock in negotiations hasn’t and won’t change because of Trumps poison pills.

    The only next steps are punitive tarrifs on Mexico and Canada, which be be reciprocated directly at states with representatives in Trumps circle, or just letting the issue drop.

    So I guess we’re just letting the issue drop. After 9 months of negotiations.
    Last edited by Dr.Knuckles; 18th May 2018 at 11:18 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Robert Urbanek View Post
    If trade wars are a pie fight, I need to invest my money in the guy making the pies.
    By the way, Robert, I consider this to be a CLASSIC line. It is very funny. A keeper. Well done. @Robert Urbanek
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