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    Quote Originally Posted by boontito View Post
    Mormons have tails?
    They did, before all of that work.
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    Quote Originally Posted by boontito View Post
    Mormons have tails?

    That's offensive!!
    Donald Trump would say that some of those Mormon girls are nice pieces of tail. That's the way he talks about his closest aides, like Hope Hicks.

    So don't blame me. Don't kill the messenger.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Libertine View Post
    How many agrarian economies do we have anywhere in the US these days?
    A lot of rural America is agrarian. In Idaho, its Simplot. They grow some killer hops there too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bajisima View Post
    Wages and salaries are going up, at least for most Americans.

    The Bureau of Economic Analysis released a report last week that shows which states had the highest wage growth in 2017.

    Idaho is booming with jobs and earnings growth, buoyed by sectors like computer-parts manufacturing, agriculture, food services, and construction, reports The Wall Street Journal. The Great Potato state saw a 5.3% increase in earnings — comprised mainly of annual wages and salaries — in 2017 from the year before, outpacing earnings nationally, which grew at 3.1%.

    Jan Roser an economist with the Idaho Department of Labor says there are good jobs all across the state, too. “It appears durable manufacturing was the main source behind that,” said Roser. “We do have pockets of durable manufacturing all over our state, and certain we have a high concentration, maybe not as high as was before the recession, of computer and electronic product manufacturing.”

    States where pay is rising the fastest, ranked - Strategy - Pulse.ng
    This is kinda important:

    The Wall Street Journal points out that Idaho's low unemployment rate of 3.0% helped boost its wage growth. The state also has a low per capita income — 44th in the nation — that allows for higher growth.

    When you're near the bottom, you can get a bigger percentage increase ... and still be near the bottom.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Amelia View Post
    This is kinda important:

    When you're near the bottom, you can get a bigger percentage increase ... and still be near the bottom.
    The growth will gradually change things. Rising tides, as they say.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Neomalthusian View Post
    The growth will gradually change things. Rising tides, as they say.

    Rising to 44th in the nation is better than sinking.

    But it's not grounds to start using Idaho as a model for achieving economic health.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Amelia View Post
    Rising to 44th in the nation is better than sinking.

    But it's not grounds to start using Idaho as a model for achieving economic health.
    I’m not alleging any state is “a model.” I’m observing that with economic growth comes things like rising prices. Including for labor.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Amelia View Post
    This is kinda important:




    When you're near the bottom, you can get a bigger percentage increase ... and still be near the bottom.
    At one time, as measured by average scores on SAT exams, the state of South Carolina ranked 50th among the 50 states. When asked about this, the State Commissioner of Education (and I may not have the title exactly right) tried to portray this as being a GOOD thing. How so, she was asked. Well, she replied, it meant that South Carolina could ONLY go UP in the rankings.

    She was a product herself of the South Carolina educational system.

    Bet you could have deduced that on your own!

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    Quote Originally Posted by BigLeRoy View Post
    At one time, as measured by average scores on SAT exams, the state of South Carolina ranked 50th among the 50 states. When asked about this, the State Commissioner of Education (and I may not have the title exactly right) tried to portray this as being a GOOD thing. How so, she was asked. Well, she replied, it meant that South Carolina could ONLY go UP in the rankings.

    She was a product herself of the South Carolina educational system.

    Bet you could have deduced that on your own!
    Link?

    Not directed at you per se, but I have to say I detect a definite partisan insistence that because the state is considered "red," any good news must be dismissed or spun negative. Partisan left wingers will praise and adore places like Southern California, the Bay Area, Seattle, Denver, and the like, why? For any real underlying economic reason? Not really, it's mainly just because of partisan politics, i.e. the red or blue voting record of the state. What's left out or ignored? The fucking insane cost of living in those places. Try to find a decent three bedroom in a good school zone in any of those cities. It's altogether unaffordable for most ordinary people. Most of the top 10 most unaffordable housing markets are in California. If you're not a lawyer, doctor, tech whiz, business executive, or tenured college professor, your overall quality of life in a lot of these areas is actually relatively shitty. You're priced out. You must accept long commutes, lower quality public education, and higher debt to income ratios. Why aren't these blue states harangued by liberal champions of economic equality over this issue? Why aren't they demanding politicians pass laws that magically make the cost of living lower in these areas? Because these states vote for Democrats in national elections, and that's all that matters to a partisan dolt.

    For a long time Idaho has been the cheapest cost of living state west of Oklahoma. Wages are naturally lower where cost of living is lower, and higher where cost of living is higher. Idaho is changing rapidly. As growth occurs, demand for virtually everything increases, which pushes prices of everything upward. The of rising wages will be corresponding increases to cost of living, which will make worker retention worse unless firms raise their wages. And when economic growth is occurring, many firms will be able to afford to do this and their frustration with continuous recruiting and vacancies will push those wages higher.

    Even partisans should celebrate the economic development of formerly backwoods conservative areas. It tends to moderate the states politically and brings a typically more liberal urban presence to the state's largest cities. Instead partisan retards insist on speaking with only contempt about any state that appears red on a presidential voting map.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bajisima View Post
    Wages and salaries are going up, at least for most Americans.

    The Bureau of Economic Analysis released a report last week that shows which states had the highest wage growth in 2017.

    Idaho is booming with jobs and earnings growth, buoyed by sectors like computer-parts manufacturing, agriculture, food services, and construction, reports The Wall Street Journal. The Great Potato state saw a 5.3% increase in earnings — comprised mainly of annual wages and salaries — in 2017 from the year before, outpacing earnings nationally, which grew at 3.1%.

    Jan Roser an economist with the Idaho Department of Labor says there are good jobs all across the state, too. “It appears durable manufacturing was the main source behind that,” said Roser. “We do have pockets of durable manufacturing all over our state, and certain we have a high concentration, maybe not as high as was before the recession, of computer and electronic product manufacturing.”

    States where pay is rising the fastest, ranked - Strategy - Pulse.ng
    It's good to see information indicating wages are rising again.

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