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    That doesn't seem to have anything to do with states who require tipped employees to receive full minimum wage vs. states who require a lower than minimum wage rate plus tips to add up to minimum wage. That's been going on for far longer than the recent minimum wage hikes.

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    labrea, I'm a proponent of annually increasing the federal minimum wage rate 12% until its purchasing power's 20% higher than its 1968 peak. Thereafter the rate should continue to be monitored and annually modified to retain its purchasing power.

    Although all federal branches of government would continue to be empowered to monitor and if necessary oversee the minimum wage rate, if our U.S. Congress would just once set a realistic rate pegged to the consumer price index, the rate would remain hence forte a matter subject to civil service statisticians rather than to congressional politicians.

    I'm an old man but I hope and do believe inevitably this will occur within my lifetime.

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    Why can't supply and demand resolve this?

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    Quote Originally Posted by labrea View Post
    Lisa Graves, Zaid Jilani

    April 17 2018, 7:39 p.m.

    ONE OF THE NATION’S most powerful anti-minimum wage lobbying groups tapped a long-time Republican pollster to survey the public about a range of issues impacting the industry.

    A significant chunk of the survey focused on attitudes toward the minimum wage — and many members of the powerful lobby group aren’t going to like the results.

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    Conducted by GOP pollster Frank Luntz’s firm LuntzGlobal on behalf of the other NRA — the National Restaurant Association — the poll found that 71 percent of people surveyed support raising the minimum wage to at least $10 an hour.

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    “The restaurant industry now in the United States is larger than 90 percent of the world economies,” said Hudson Riehle, senior vice president of the NRA’s Research and Knowledge group.

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    One of the arguments routinely made by industry representatives is that raising the minimum wage will raise the costs for customers. But, the NRA’s own poll shows that, by an overwhelming majority, customers are willing to pay more to support a “fair wage.”

    In the words of LuntzGlobal: “They want the INCREASE in spite of the costs.”

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    That would mean no more tips. Be careful what you wish for and how it will affect industries. They now get tips because they get below minimum wages

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    That would mean no more tips. Be careful what you wish for and how it will affect industries. They now get tips because they get below minimum wages
    There are some restaurants where the waitresses pay for the table, knowing that the tips will far exceed their wages...

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    Quote Originally Posted by bmanmcfly View Post
    There are some restaurants where the waitresses pay for the table, knowing that the tips will far exceed their wages...
    That is the problem with the minimum wage it does not apply to servers

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    Just how much do people tip I wonder? I usually tip from 15 to 30% depending on the quality of the service. If I get a discount say for example AARP I will add that to the tip. How do you figure tips?

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    Quote Originally Posted by boontito View Post
    That doesn't seem to have anything to do with states who require tipped employees to receive full minimum wage vs. states who require a lower than minimum wage rate plus tips to add up to minimum wage. That's been going on for far longer than the recent minimum wage hikes.
    Same principle still applies. The law of supply and demand applies to low skill labor like it does anything else. If you make something more expensive without adding value, the cost will be paid from somewhere. Up to and including reduced demand.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Macduff View Post
    Same principle still applies. The law of supply and demand applies to low skill labor like it does anything else. If you make something more expensive without adding value, the cost will be paid from somewhere. Up to and including reduced demand.
    Yeah. Agreed. That's not what was being discussed though. Thanks.

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