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    Quote Originally Posted by boontito View Post
    Yeah. Agreed. That's not what was being discussed though. Thanks.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dittohead not! View Post
    Just how much do people tip I wonder? I usually tip from 15 to 30% depending on the quality of the service. If I get a discount say for example AARP I will add that to the tip. How do you figure tips?
    The point is the democrats want to do away with tips which is good for me. I have always had a problem with people working for $3 an hour and depending on tips

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    *looks up at title of thread *
    *looks at words that were actually being responded to*

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    Quote Originally Posted by bmanmcfly View Post
    Why can't supply and demand resolve this?
    Bmanmcfly, The federal minimum wage rate's effect upon a job's wage rate is proportionally and inversely related to the difference between them; (i.e. the lowest wage jobs are the most, and the higher wage jobs are proportionally the least effected by the minimum wage rate. But the federal minimum wage rate directly or indirectly to some extent effects all USA labor compensation.

    Employees and applicants for employment are generally at negotiating disadvantage to those that hire labor. Those that are the least skilled or or otherwise desired for employment, (i.e. the lowest wage workers are those at the greatest negotiating disadvantages.

    Because federal minimum wage rate directly or indirectly effects all USA labor compensation, a lesser minimum rate to some extent drags upon all USA labor compensation.
    The federal minim wage rate's not among the primary drivers of the U.S. dollar's inflation, but the wage earners are certainly victims of that inflation.
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    labrea, I'm a proponent of annually increasing the federal minimum wage rate 12% until its purchasing power's 20% higher than its 1968 peak. Thereafter the rate should continue to be monitored and annually modified to retain its purchasing power.

    Although all federal branches of government would continue to be empowered to monitor and if necessary oversee the minimum wage rate, if our U.S. Congress would just once set a realistic rate pegged to the consumer price index, the rate would remain hence forte a matter subject to civil service statisticians rather than to congressional politicians.

    I'm an old man but I hope and do believe inevitably this will occur within my lifetime. ...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Supposn View Post
    Bmanmcfly, The federal minimum wage rate's effect upon a job's wage rate is proportionally and inversely related to the difference between them; (i.e. the lowest wage jobs are the most, and the higher wage jobs are proportionally the least effected by the minimum wage rate. But the federal minimum wage rate directly or indirectly to some extent effects all USA labor compensation.

    Employees and applicants for employment are generally at negotiating disadvantage to those that hire labor. Those that are the least skilled or or otherwise desired for employment, (i.e. the lowest wage workers are those at the greatest negotiating disadvantages.

    Because federal minimum wage rate directly or indirectly effects all USA labor compensation, a lesser minimum rate to some extent drags upon all USA labor compensation.
    The federal minim wage rate's not among the primary drivers of the U.S. dollar's inflation, but the wage earners are certainly victims of that inflation.

    Respectfully, Supposn
    At least the minimum wage should be indexed to inflation.
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    Quote Originally Posted by labrea View Post
    In other words, engaged in scrambling for scraps from the masters table.
    The theory is that this is desirable. It is another form of thinking that the best way to help poor people is to give more money to rich people.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ian Jeffrey View Post
    The theory is that this is desirable. It is another form of thinking that the best way to help poor people is to give more money to rich people.
    Yeah, low wages for work poor people do is inspirational, or so we're told.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ian Jeffrey View Post
    The theory is that this is desirable. It is another form of thinking that the best way to help poor people is to give more money to rich people.
    A theory seldom subscribed to by poor people.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dittohead not! View Post
    Just how much do people tip I wonder? I usually tip from 15 to 30% depending on the quality of the service. If I get a discount say for example AARP I will add that to the tip. How do you figure tips?
    Interesting link about tipping.

    The results may surprise you. Five states—Montana, Wyoming, Colorado, Alabama, and West Virginia—have a 15% to 16.3% average tipping rate. The five states with the lowest average tips—Utah, Delaware, Hawaii, New Jersey, and New York—only tip between 10.6% and 11.3%.

    https://lifehacker.com/this-is-how-m...-us-1521388393
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    Quote Originally Posted by bajisima View Post
    Interesting link about tipping.

    The results may surprise you. Five states—Montana, Wyoming, Colorado, Alabama, and West Virginia—have a 15% to 16.3% average tipping rate. The five states with the lowest average tips—Utah, Delaware, Hawaii, New Jersey, and New York—only tip between 10.6% and 11.3%.

    https://lifehacker.com/this-is-how-m...-us-1521388393
    That's interesting. From the look of that map it seems that the states that require tipped employees to make the actual minimum wage and not a reduced minimum wage plus tips don't see any impact to the level of tips they receive. This seems to fly in the face of the argument that tipped positions can't be paid full minimum wage because they'd see their tip amounts severely reduced.
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