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    Quote Originally Posted by labrea View Post
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    April 17 2018, 7:39 p.m.

    ONE OF THE NATION’S most powerful anti-minimum wage lobbying groups tapped a long-time Republican pollster to survey the public about a range of issues impacting the industry.

    A significant chunk of the survey focused on attitudes toward the minimum wage — and many members of the powerful lobby group aren’t going to like the results.

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    Conducted by GOP pollster Frank Luntz’s firm LuntzGlobal on behalf of the other NRA — the National Restaurant Association — the poll found that 71 percent of people surveyed support raising the minimum wage to at least $10 an hour.

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    “The restaurant industry now in the United States is larger than 90 percent of the world economies,” said Hudson Riehle, senior vice president of the NRA’s Research and Knowledge group.

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    One of the arguments routinely made by industry representatives is that raising the minimum wage will raise the costs for customers. But, the NRA’s own poll shows that, by an overwhelming majority, customers are willing to pay more to support a “fair wage.”

    In the words of LuntzGlobal: “They want the INCREASE in spite of the costs.”

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    Ms. Labrea,

    The increase in minimum wage here in Oakland has done little to affect me. For example, last fall, the breakfast sandwich I got this morning was $4.65. I would give the casher a $5 bill, and leave the change in the tip jar. Today, the same sandwich is $5. Now I just give the casher a $5 bill, just like before.

    Also, it used to be, I would just double the tax (California state and local tax is 9.25%) for about a 19% tip. Now I leave a 15% tip, which is about the difference in the increase in prices.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kallie Knoetze View Post
    Ms. Labrea,

    The increase in minimum wage here in Oakland has done little to affect me. For example, last fall, the breakfast sandwich I got this morning was $4.65. I would give the casher a $5 bill, and leave the change in the tip jar. Today, the same sandwich is $5. Now I just give the casher a $5 bill, just like before.

    Also, it used to be, I would just double the tax (California state and local tax is 9.25%) for about a 19% tip. Now I leave a 15% tip, which is about the difference in the increase in prices.
    Im so sorry budget constraints have forced you to eliminate your once generous thirty five cent tip. Certainly those on the lower end of the economic scale understand the need for watching ones pennies. Just be grateful you can still afford the five buck sandwich.
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    Quote Originally Posted by labrea View Post
    Im so sorry budget constraints have forced you to eliminate your once generous thirty five cent tip. Certainly those on the lower end of the economic scale understand the need for watching ones pennies. Just be grateful you can still afford the five buck sandwich.
    Ms. Labrea,

    Not budget constraints, but rather, I already paid their minimum wage increase, so they don't need a tip from me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kallie Knoetze View Post
    Ms. Labrea,

    The increase in minimum wage here in Oakland has done little to affect me. For example, last fall, the breakfast sandwich I got this morning was $4.65. I would give the casher a $5 bill, and leave the change in the tip jar. Today, the same sandwich is $5. Now I just give the casher a $5 bill, just like before.

    Also, it used to be, I would just double the tax (California state and local tax is 9.25%) for about a 19% tip. Now I leave a 15% tip, which is about the difference in the increase in prices.
    Kallie Knoetze, OK; you're proud of your stinginess.

    If you should find yourself within the NY/NJ/CT AREA, (for your health's sake), I suggest that you not attempt to be served by waiters or lunch counter workers at the same establishment for a second time.
    Whenever I can't afford to properly tip, I don't patronize an establishment with such services. I then prefer to purchase from a fruit stand rather than steal the time and effort of some employee dependent upon tips.

    Also, I generally refrain from sending food back, even for very justifiable reasons, (unless I've established some rapport with the server).

    Respectfully, Supposn
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    Quote Originally Posted by Supposn View Post
    Kallie Knoetze, OK; you're proud of your stinginess.

    If you should find yourself within the NY/NJ/CT AREA, (for your health's sake), I suggest that you not attempt to be served by waiters or lunch counter workers at the same establishment for a second time.
    Whenever I can't afford to properly tip, I don't patronize an establishment with such services. I then prefer to purchase from a fruit stand rather than steal the time and effort of some employee dependent upon tips.

    Also, I generally refrain from sending food back, even for very justifiable reasons, (unless I've established some rapport with the server).

    Respectfully, Supposn
    Mr. Supposn,

    Being thrifty is not the same as being stingy. Please consult a dictionary.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kallie Knoetze View Post
    Mr. Supposn,

    Being thrifty is not the same as being stingy. Please consult a dictionary.
    Oh, I’d say a thirty five cent tip is just plain stingy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by labrea View Post
    Oh, I’d say a thirty five cent tip is just plain stingy.
    Ms. labrea,

    Actually, for counter service, 35 cents is pretty good. Nothing is the norm.

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    My daughter works banquets at a Ritz Carlton property. Service charges start at 20%, mandatory. This fixes the problem for everyone. She makes around 50$/hr but this is for first class service, synchronized service, multiple courses, etc. I bet most servers would be happy at 20-25$ hour for the average medium priced restaurant. Once you get into the fancy places, servers are expected to know the menu inside and out, wine pairings, etc. They have to come in early to get trained on the menu, how to discuss the items, what to sell, how to pair wines with meals, etc. It is not an easy job. I got through college waiting tables, worked my ass off.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kallie Knoetze View Post
    Ms. labrea,

    Actually, for counter service, 35 cents is pretty good. Nothing is the norm.
    Nothing is the norm from stingy people.
    I make an effort when choosing my words. I chose "stingy" because I believe it was the appropriate word.

    Respectfully, Supposn
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    Quote Originally Posted by Supposn View Post
    Nothing is the norm from stingy people.
    I make an effort when choosing my words. I chose "stingy" because I believe it was the appropriate word.

    Respectfully, Supposn
    Mr. supposn,

    If you make an effort when choosing your words, shouldn't know what they mean?

    stingy: unwilling to give or spend; ungenerous

    thrifty: (of a person or their behavior) using money and other resources carefully and not wastefully.

    You see, not leaving anything more than spare change in a tip jar for counter service is thrifty, not stingy.

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