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    Quote Originally Posted by boontito View Post
    Yeah, traveled all over this country. I don't tip differently depending on location. Friendly service gets over and above, good service a more average level, and outright bad service which I've had very rarely may get a little below average.

    The point is, I don't have some chart folded up in my wallet that tells me who makes what minimum wage in different states and also which states allow for below minimum wage rates of pay if tips are accepted. That's ridiculous.
    @boontito What would you do if you went to a restaurant and you see they charge a 20% service charge? Do you tip as you normally would or do you assume that surcharge goes to the server?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kontrary View Post
    @boontito What would you do if you went to a restaurant and you see they charge a 20% service charge? Do you tip as you normally would or do you assume that surcharge goes to the server?
    Both my daughters have been servers and they both think raising the min wage to $15 would definately cause many restaurants to stop making customers tip. Our local newspaper did a poll asking people if they knew servers were making $15 or more an hour, would they continue to tip? More than 75% said no and most said it was because we dont tip teachers, or UPS delivery people, or EMTs so why would servers be tipped? Servers are tipped because people know they dont make much and are providing a service.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Kontrary View Post
    @boontito What would you do if you went to a restaurant and you see they charge a 20% service charge? Do you tip as you normally would or do you assume that surcharge goes to the server?
    I don't remember seeing too much of that. I'd probably embarrass my wife and come out and ask if that goes to the server.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bajisima View Post
    Both my daughters have been servers and they both think raising the min wage to $15 would definately cause many restaurants to stop making customers tip. Our local newspaper did a poll asking people if they knew servers were making $15 or more an hour, would they continue to tip? More than 75% said no and most said it was because we dont tip teachers, or UPS delivery people, or EMTs so why would servers be tipped? Servers are tipped because people know they dont make much and are providing a service.


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    We tip servers out here and they make $11-$15 an hour. I tip as a reward for good service not as a way to subsidize a failed business model. If a business doesn't make enough money to pay their employees minimum wage, maybe opening a business wasn't their best move.

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    Quote Originally Posted by boontito View Post
    We tip servers out here and they make $11-$15 an hour. I tip as a reward for good service not as a way to subsidize a failed business model. If a business doesn't make enough money to pay their employees minimum wage, maybe opening a business wasn't their best move.
    I think that works in certain areas and at certain establishments. A high end restaurant in a big city would have better luck at that as opposed to a server working in an Applebees around here. I know when I travel some areas do pay their servers well and I still tip. But in most of small town America, that gets dicey.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bajisima View Post
    I think that works in certain areas and at certain establishments. A high end restaurant in a big city would have better luck at that as opposed to a server working in an Applebees around here. I know when I travel some areas do pay their servers well and I still tip. But in most of small town America, that gets dicey.
    Restaurant owners out here, in big or small towns and I was raised in a town of about 3000 people, don't have the choice to not pay their employees minimum wage and they still manage to be profitable and their servers still get tips.

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    Quote Originally Posted by boontito View Post
    Restaurant owners out here, in big or small towns and I was raised in a town of about 3000 people, don't have the choice to not pay their employees minimum wage and they still manage to be profitable and their servers still get tips.
    Yea I dont know but for many other states, keeping "tipped workers" at 2.35 is a big deal. Raising their wages just cant get passed, even in blue states where the min wage has gone up to 10 bucks or above, they still opt to pay tipped servers the $2.35. As Kontrary has said, the servers want it that way. Everytime it gets discussed servers protest or appeal it. The only workers who seem to want the $15 an hour are the fast food ones who arent tipped. Tipped workers dont want $15 an hour.
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    Quote Originally Posted by boontito View Post
    I don't remember seeing too much of that. I'd probably embarrass my wife and come out and ask if that goes to the server.
    How will your wife know though? If you ask owners they will say it does go to cover servers (meaning they use it to cover the new higher wages)....people are not going to pay that surcharge and continue to tip 20% to 25% as they do now. There arent enough hours aailable to have me there 40 hours per week AND the hours they do need me are odd ones, I can work somewhere else for that wage and get better hours. Why would I work a busy crazy sat night instead of the monday slow lunch? There is no way I would work on sat night for the same wage I get paid on a monday lunch!
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