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    Quote Originally Posted by bajisima View Post
    Cant really blame Trump fully on this. Higher interest rates should be a good thing, it means the economy is healthy and stable. I know we have been spoiled forever having them so low but they cant stay low forever, that would be really a bad thing.
    And we're spoiled by low gas prices. How high are you willing to let them go before they're not a "good thing"?

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    Quote Originally Posted by libertariat720 View Post
    The self driving cars still have people in them though.

    I don't really see a situation where there are millions of eighteen wheelers driving around with nobody actually in them.
    In ten years.....and probably in much less time than that.....you will have semi-trucks driving down the interstate with no humans in them, delivering their cargos to where-ever they are supposed to go. Human truck-drivers are simply far too expensive. They are about to be replaced.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bajisima View Post
    Cant really blame Trump fully on this. Higher interest rates should be a good thing, it means the economy is healthy and stable. I know we have been spoiled forever having them so low but they cant stay low forever, that would be really a bad thing.

    Why?

    Higher interest rates make the working class poorer by getting them deeper into debt. It's a pyramid scheme.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NightSwimmer View Post
    Why?

    Higher interest rates make the working class poorer by getting them deeper into debt. It's a pyramid scheme.
    Debt is the new slavery.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bajisima View Post
    We have a friend who owns a vintage car shop and also a junkyard. He has been telling us the recent craze isnt to fix up the old cars but to have them as original as possible. Also that they cant keep older cars in stock. Seems people now want cars without computers and such both because they are cheaper to fix but also because a lot of people feel they are tracked with computers/black boxes in their cars.
    Exactly that’s why you want to make sure the car has not been in a major accident or repainted or altered in any major way. Those thing cut into demand and pricing although I don’t understand that myself. I’d rather have a old car look new with a fresh coat of paint than an old car look old and original but to each his own. I have been lucky as the cars I have bought have been babied by the original owners and have not needed anything but a good detailing and waxing. Also if the car has had updates in terms of having the factory radio or stereo removed and replaced with the latest Bluetooth technology with navigation system make sure the original parts come with the car. If you don’t want the updated stuff you can go back to the original or at least have it available for the next buyer. I personally update my radio/stereo to have Bluetooth and the latest navigation for my own comfort and safety but I keep the originals to revert back when I sell it to someone else. There are those who wants it the way it rolled off the assembly line. You just have to make sure the dash board is not altered in terms of cuts to it to fit the new system in its place. It has to be a matter of taking out the new system and putting back the original. It’s much easier now because of the availability’s of rearview mirrors that act as backup cameras, navigation systems and are Bluetooth friendly for cell phones. Just replace the rear view mirror with a high tech one and install a backup camera behind your license plate and bingo you are in the 21st century. Want to go back to the original just reattach the old rearview mirror and remove the backup camera hidden behind the license plate. I’ve avoided having to make any cuts or drill holes this way. All very easy and do it yourself. You have the best of both worlds this way.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mister B View Post
    And we're spoiled by low gas prices. How high are you willing to let them go before they're not a "good thing"?
    True. I suppose a good thing depends on who you are talking to. Some environmentalists want gas prices to be $5 or $6 a gallon like in Europe so more people either carpool or take public transportation. Their argument is less cars on the road the better. However, low income people who have to drive 2 hours to get to work might disagree. Same thing more or less applies with gas taxes, some want them higher for infrastructure but poorer people hate that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bajisima View Post
    True. I suppose a good thing depends on who you are talking to. Some environmentalists want gas prices to be $5 or $6 a gallon like in Europe so more people either carpool or take public transportation. Their argument is less cars on the road the better. However, low income people who have to drive 2 hours to get to work might disagree. Same thing more or less applies with gas taxes, some want them higher for infrastructure but poorer people hate that.
    What we NEED are cheaper electric cars, and very preferably with a longer range before they need to be recharged. Oh, and fully automated (driverless), so that we can eliminate automobile accidents, drunk driving, and etc.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BigLeRoy View Post
    What we NEED are cheaper electric cars, and very preferably with a longer range before they need to be recharged. Oh, and fully automated (driverless), so that we can eliminate automobile accidents, drunk driving, and etc.
    We need cheaper electric first. We pay a fortune here in New England for electric so Ecars are having a hard time getting traction. Plus we commute so damn long and sit in traffic forever so they just arent making it except for in Boston proper.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BigLeRoy View Post
    Millennials are not much interested in buying cars at all. I'm a retiring Baby Boomer who has ZERO interest in buying a truck or SUV. I have a five year old Chevy Cruze with barely 11,000 miles on it, and I will probably never need to buy another car again. Shrug. The car companies are in trouble. They are in need of an entirely new business model, which is why many of them are pumping billions into driverless cars and electric cars.
    May also depend on what state you live in and their taxing structure. Some pay a heavy sales tax on a purchase, some states have an annual tax on cars. ( my state) Being gored by taxing authority and insurance takes the thrill out of driving brand new. So you hold on to your gas consuming, polluting old heap a little longer. My state raised the cap on sales tax and still has it's annual tax. Supposedly this money is to repair roads but it too gets corrupted by the state criminals.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HayJenn View Post
    Yeah, the only reason I bought a new car was because I HAD to (the VW emission thing). Had it 9 years with only 32,000 miles. I would of driven it at least 3 more years. Good thing I got the new car for about 3K (we had already saved up for it).

    Twice a year? That's awesome. I maybe had to do that like 8 times a years because I got really good mileage as well.
    Nearly 300,000 VW diesels are sitting in lots across the U.S. Nearly 300,000 VW diesels are sitting in lots across the U.S. | Fox News

    Biggest waste in history. So stupid. The emissions damage is minuscule.



    The lot at the Southern California Logistics Airport is one of 37 across the country. (Reuters)





    A recent court filing revealed that Volkswagen had resold 13,000 and destroyed about 28,000 vehicles by the end of 2017, but still had 294,000 vehicles in storage at that time.
    The automaker has until the end of 2019 to complete the buyback program.
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