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    Quote Originally Posted by NightSwimmer View Post
    Have they been destroyed? Looks to me like they're merely being stored. I don't know what they intend to do with them.
    28,000 have been destroyed for no damn good reason. Resources pissed away.
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    Quote Originally Posted by THOR View Post
    28,000 have been destroyed for no damn good reason. Resources pissed away.
    Back around 2010 or so, in the aftermath of the bursting of the Great American Housing Bubble of the 2000's, when we still had an enormous over-supply of homes, many of them just sitting empty, a frustrated columnist wrote an opinion piece for The Wall Street Journal in which he advocated dynamiting some two million vacant homes, to eliminate the over-supply in one fell stroke.

    You are right to complain about resources being wasted for no good reason, Thor. Economists abhor such things.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BigLeRoy View Post
    Back around 2010 or so, in the aftermath of the bursting of the Great American Housing Bubble of the 2000's, when we still had an enormous over-supply of homes, many of them just sitting empty, a frustrated columnist wrote an opinion piece for The Wall Street Journal in which he advocated dynamiting some two million vacant homes, to eliminate the over-supply in one fell stroke.

    You are right to complain about resources being wasted for no good reason, Thor. Economists abhor such things.
    I bought a new SUV about 6 months before "Cash for Clunkers." I got a letter in the mail that due to gas mileage, my car could be scrapped under the program. Six month old car! I am still driving it today.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BigLeRoy View Post
    I don't think this is entirely to blame on Mr. Trump. I think, in fact, that we have probably hit peak auto sales.

    Driverless automobiles are looming. Once they have arrived, the incentive to actually OWN a car may simply vanish.

    What to do with all those garages? People may simply convert them into storage areas, or maybe rec rooms.
    I'm more concerned with what to do about repairer garages, delivery people, taxi & truck drivers, tire salesmen, auto parts stores, quick lubes & probably even dealerships as we know them.

    What happens when nobody has a job because "your" car can just report for maintenance while you sleep?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sparta View Post
    I'm more concerned with what to do about repairer garages, delivery people, taxi & truck drivers, tire salesmen, auto parts stores, quick lubes & probably even dealerships as we know them.

    What happens when nobody has a job because "your" car can just report for maintenance while you sleep?
    I seriously think the whole "Russian bot" thing is beginning to change peoples minds a bit. Prior to that we were heading to online voting and registration, retinal scans, biometrics and all this stuff. Now people are starting to reconsider. Even ethicists are now coming to the forefront and say we are heading into dangerous territory with driverless cars. I do think they will exist to some degree but not anytime soon. We still see people driving vintage cars they arent going away. I was told I would be in a flying car years ago, I am still waiting.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sparta View Post
    I'm more concerned with what to do about repairer garages, delivery people, taxi & truck drivers, tire salesmen, auto parts stores, quick lubes & probably even dealerships as we know them.

    What happens when nobody has a job because "your" car can just report for maintenance while you sleep?
    if my car reports to maintenance by itself.. it still needs to be served (repairer garages, tire salesmen, auto parts industry, quick lubes etc.), and i still need to get around that day (taxi).
    And self driving cars.. still need to be purchased (dealerships).

    So except for uber drivers and some amount of taxi drivers, i don't really see a big impact on the supporting industry due to cars being auto-driven in the future.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rev. Hellh0und View Post
    Why did you... "have to"?

    Those cars can no longer pass emissions tests.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sparta View Post
    I'm more concerned with what to do about repairer garages, delivery people, taxi & truck drivers, tire salesmen, auto parts stores, quick lubes & probably even dealerships as we know them.

    What happens when nobody has a job because "your" car can just report for maintenance while you sleep?
    You know, our economy has frequently had to undergo truly wrenching transformations. The Industrial Revolution was an extraordinarily traumatic event, for almost every nation that underwent it. America was probably the nation that had the least traumatic experience with industrialization, because we never had a large class of peasantry that had to be swept away first, to 'clear the way' for industrialization to proceed. You've heard the phrase 'Schumpeterian creative destruction'? That's what we're talking about here. Schumpeter said: "Capitalism IS turmoil!" He was right. If you don't like that, if you're not willing to accept it as a fact of life in a capitalist economy, well then, you should probably announce yourself to be an opponent of capitalism, and have at it.

    Yes, vast changes are coming. Trying to stop them would be like trying to stop the tide. Better to adopt a strategy of trying to ADAPT, as best you can.

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    Quote Originally Posted by THOR View Post
    28,000 have been destroyed for no damn good reason. Resources pissed away.

    Where did you hear that? I searched for the story and couldn't find anything.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NightSwimmer View Post
    Where did you hear that? I searched for the story and couldn't find anything.
    It's in the caption to the bottom photo in post #41.

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