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    Quote Originally Posted by ptif219 View Post
    So you want to put the electric company out of business. Good luck with that

    I hope you don't get sick

    http://www.eiwellspring.org/solaremfhazard.pdf

    Experts warn about potential dangers of solar panels - WFSB 3 Connecticut
    Electromagnetic hypersensitivity (EHS) is a claimed sensitivity to electromagnetic fields, to which negative symptoms are attributed. EHS has no scientific basis and is not a recognised medical diagnosis. Claims are characterized by a "variety of non-specific symptoms, which afflicted individuals attribute to exposure to electromagnetic fields".[1] Wikipedia
    However, we do know that air pollution from fossil fuels are are real health risk.

    Each year, 6.1 million lives are lost prematurely due to air pollution. Though most acutely and visibly hampering megacities of the developing world, air pollution is a growing public health emergency that affects almost all of us in our daily lives, whether or not we are aware of it. The Health Effects Institute estimates that only 5% of the global population are lucky enough to live in areas with air pollution levels below safe guidelines. Though recent studies suggest there may in fact be no risk-free level of air pollution.

    Why is this number relevant to climate policy? Because one common culprit is responsible for the majority of both climate change and air pollution: fuel combustion. Burning coal, oil, natural gas, and biomass for everyday uses ranging from electricity, heating, cooking, to transportation releases hundreds of gases and particles, some of which disrupt the climate system or are harmful to human health, or both. Climate change could also worsen air quality in the future.

    Decades of research have revealed that air pollution is associated with a wide range of diseases and disorders, including asthma, cancer, heart disease, stroke, and premature birth. There is also emerging evidence that pollution from coal combustion and motor vehicles can cause development delays, reduced IQ, and autism in children.

    https://www.theguardian.com/environm...f-fossil-fuels
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    Quote Originally Posted by bonehead View Post
    not to worry. while I wait for the break-even point, I'll still be getting discounts from the electric company as they must pay me or discount my bill if usage is more than production.
    Which could move the break even point up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jeremy View Post
    I grew up in Florida and there were a few houses where I lived who were powered by solar panels - and that was a long time ago so I suspect the technology has advanced since then. That being said - I also lived on the gulf coast and right on the beach so my community got plenty of sunshine.

    It probably depends on where in the state you live.
    We have had a low settle here for the last week. The whole state has been under the dark clouds. Of course June first starts hurricane season and the wet season

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    Quote Originally Posted by labrea View Post
    A micro wind turbine certainly doesnt cost anywhere close to a million dollars.

    https://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_nkw...&ul_noapp=true

    The government also does not pay for it. There is a reason Pickens got out of the wind turbine business

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    Quote Originally Posted by labrea View Post
    However, we do know that air pollution from fossil fuels are are real health risk.
    In some areas. The problem is that does not apply to propane and natural gas which power plants now use

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    Quote Originally Posted by ptif219 View Post
    The government also does not pay for it. There is a reason Pickens got out of the wind turbine business
    So?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ptif219 View Post
    In some areas. The problem is that does not apply to propane and natural gas which power plants now use
    it is a matter of degree

    Propane Emissions
    Propane is a relatively clean-burning fuel, which is attributed to its lower carbon content. However, its combustion does produce wastes, such as particulate matter, sulfur dioxide, nitrogen oxides, nitrous oxide, carbon monoxide, greenhouse gas, methane and non-methane overall organic carbon. Because propane is a low-carbon fuel, using it to replace conventional fuels could cause significant reductions in harmful emissions. For example, the Argonne National Laboratory has estimated that converting a vehicle from using conventional fuels to propane could reduce greenhouse gas emissions by almost 10 percent.

    Health Effects
    Because propane is common in both homes and workplaces, the odds of being exposed to dangerous concentrations of the gas are well within reason. Propane is an asphyxiant, meaning very high concentrations of the gas can cause suffocation. Exposure to high concentrations can also cause cardiac arrest, unconsciousness or seizures. Sustained contact with the skin can cause frostbite. Propane exposure in lower concentrations can also cause physical damage, particularly to the central nervous system, lungs and eyes.

    What Effects Does Propane Have on the Environment? | Education - Seattle PI
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    Quote Originally Posted by labrea View Post
    A micro wind turbine certainly doesnt cost anywhere close to a million dollars.

    https://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_nkw...&ul_noapp=true
    1700 watts at 12v... If it weren't a 5 ft eyesore, that actually may not be completely useless...

    The spec sheet was a bit limited, but that's something that could probably power a home as long as the wind is in the optimum range.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bmanmcfly View Post
    1700 watts at 12v... If it weren't a 5 ft eyesore, that actually may not be completely useless...

    The spec sheet was a bit limited, but that's something that could probably power a home as long as the wind is in the optimum range.
    A little imagination, and a wind turbine could be a work of art.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ptif219 View Post
    Will never happen unless you produce no food
    WHO told you this? You aren't even close to being right about that. The solar energy striking the Earth in a 40-minute period is equal to all the energy human society consumes in a year. Just think about that for a minute the next time you suggest that there is not enough land to hold the solar panels necessary to provide electricity to the earth. Not everything is a political argument.

    Hope you are having a good weekend, kind sir. I have been out working....as usual.
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