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    Quote Originally Posted by Slartibartfast View Post
    Set one up then. Simples.
    I'm retired, and I'm also not the entrepreneurial type, although I've TAUGHT about entrepreneurs for several DECADES now. What a stupid reply on your part. You suggested there were no large companies that paid double the minimum wage, I pointed out that there were many such companies, and your reply is to tell me to start one of my own?!??

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    Quote Originally Posted by Djinn View Post
    It will be a long time before a robot is as versatile as a sixteen year-old kid. We have some DAMN impressive robots out there - but nearly all of them are single-function. The most advanced surgical robots on earth can't (for example) scoop ice cream. Those ambulatory running-robots you see in videos are incapable of stacking boxes, or extracting one foot of duct tape from a spool.

    In one afternoon, you can train a human to perform pretty much every common work task in a fast-food restaurant.
    This is all true. I am certainly NOT disputing any of this. But a kiosk to take orders is, I will submit, LESS error-prone than humans.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sassy View Post
    There is something going around on social media to refuse to use self check out machines at grocery stores and I am participating even if it means taking longer to wait for the (sometimes only one) lane with a person. The idea being that if enough people do this, it will save the lanes with cashiers. Worth a try.
    So you think we should try to STOP all technological progress, Sassy? Do you consider yourself to be a Neo-Luddite? When personal computers first came along, why didn't you resist them and stick to your old-fashioned typewriter? Computers put a lot of typists out of work, and eventually, they put a LOT of human phone operators out of work. Automated cars will put a HUGE number of human drivers out of work: truck drivers, taxi drivers, bus drivers, and so forth. You CAN'T stop that. Frankly, it is foolish to try. There will be vast BENEFITS to switching to automated transportation systems. Such as virtually eliminating deaths from automobile accidents.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BigLeRoy View Post
    So you think we should try to STOP all technological progress, Sassy? Do you consider yourself to be a Neo-Luddite? When personal computers first came along, why didn't you resist them and stick to your old-fashioned typewriter? Computers put a lot of typists out of work, and eventually, they put a LOT of human phone operators out of work. Automated cars will put a HUGE number of human drivers out of work: truck drivers, taxi drivers, bus drivers, and so forth. You CAN'T stop that. Frankly, it is foolish to try. There will be vast BENEFITS to switching to automated transportation systems. Such as virtually eliminating deaths from automobile accidents.
    None of that. I don't like the self check-out. I want the cashiers there for me. Like I want a human to take my order at fast food or a restraunt. I refuse automated systems on the phone for the same reasons. My convenience.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BigLeRoy View Post
    So you think we should try to STOP all technological progress, Sassy? Do you consider yourself to be a Neo-Luddite? When personal computers first came along, why didn't you resist them and stick to your old-fashioned typewriter? Computers put a lot of typists out of work, and eventually, they put a LOT of human phone operators out of work. Automated cars will put a HUGE number of human drivers out of work: truck drivers, taxi drivers, bus drivers, and so forth. You CAN'T stop that. Frankly, it is foolish to try. There will be vast BENEFITS to switching to automated transportation systems. Such as virtually eliminating deaths from automobile accidents.
    Not all technology. But not all advancement are good.

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    Quote Originally Posted by One View Post
    Not all technology. But not all advancement are good.
    OK. That's interesting. Can you be more precise in specifying what your criteria are for distinguishing 'good' technological advancements from 'bad' ones?

    [By the way, I agree, certainly, in principle. There are definitely technological 'advancements' that would be 'bad', such as 'advances' in creating genetically-engineered bio-weapons. Horrific!]

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    Roadside assistance wants to instruct me to do all this stuff on my smartphone to map where I am and 'say' everything by listening to mulitple choice and pressing endless buttons.

    No, pick up the phone, get my address, find out what the problem is, and come attend to it. That is what I am paying for.

    At the store, ring my stuff up, take my payment, and bag my groceries, or offer me a discount to do their work. Used to be discount grocery stores and the discount was in part for bagging your own stuff. Now they want us to do it for free.

    No!

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    Quote Originally Posted by BigLeRoy View Post
    OK. That's interesting. Can you be more precise in specifying what your criteria are for distinguishing 'good' technological advancements from 'bad' ones?

    [By the way, I agree, certainly, in principle. There are definitely technological 'advancements' that would be 'bad', such as 'advances' in creating genetically-engineered bio-weapons. Horrific!]
    Anything that limits or eliminates the need for human interaction is a bad thing. Also robocalls or fake meat. Actually, there are quite a few. But I know you are pretty smart, so you should be able to figure that one out on your own.

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    Quote Originally Posted by One View Post
    Anything that limits or eliminates the need for human interaction is a bad thing. Also robocalls or fake meat. Actually, there are quite a few. But I know you are pretty smart, so you should be able to figure that one out on your own.
    Fake meat? Synthetic meat will be a tremendous advance for civilization, and might be JUST what we need to save the planet from runaway climate change! It will, in all likelihood, be both healthier for us and better-tasting. And the animal rights activists will certainly be happy about not having to kill any animals to get our meat any more. There is a whole thread on it in the Science forum, by the way.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BigLeRoy View Post
    So you think we should try to STOP all technological progress, Sassy? Do you consider yourself to be a Neo-Luddite? When personal computers first came along, why didn't you resist them and stick to your old-fashioned typewriter? Computers put a lot of typists out of work, and eventually, they put a LOT of human phone operators out of work. Automated cars will put a HUGE number of human drivers out of work: truck drivers, taxi drivers, bus drivers, and so forth. You CAN'T stop that. Frankly, it is foolish to try. There will be vast BENEFITS to switching to automated transportation systems. Such as virtually eliminating deaths from automobile accidents.
    Yea I agree. They are experimenting with new scanners where you scan each item as you put it in your cart and you use an app to check out and bag. No humans at all. We have a local warehouse store BJs and they are starting this by having half the workers in each store to keep costs super low. People seem to like it. Its actually fun when you get the hang of it, no lines ever. Young people absolutely love it.

    https://www.bjs.com/content?template...xpress_scan%2F
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