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    Quote Originally Posted by BigLeRoy View Post
    Huh?!? How is this, in ANY way, a CHANGE in my predictions??
    P.S. Miller47 may be confusing this stock market prediction with my prediction for the next recession, which I said I did not believe would start until late 2019 or early 2020. At this point, I see no reason to alter that prediction. Shrug.

    You know, the stock market is SUPPOSED to forecast recessions some six months to a year ahead of time. Of course, the inside 'joke' among economists is that the stock market has predicted nine of the last five recessions.....
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    Quote Originally Posted by Helena View Post
    Oh my God that is the best thing ever. And by "best" I mean clearly insane. But awesome.

    I remember @ had some stories about grizzly bears.
    That bear scarfed down a whole pumpkin pie at that Thanksgiving dinner table. I mean, it is for REAL. Those people raised that grizzly bear from a cub. You can fetch the VIDEO of it at the dinner, if you want to watch it. It's funny!

    I'd be afraid it would just grab the whole turkey and swallow it all at once!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Helena View Post
    Oh my God that is the best thing ever. And by "best" I mean clearly insane. But awesome.

    I remember @Dr.Knuckles had some stories about grizzly bears.
    Dear Penthouse,

    I’d never gone camping alone before....
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    Quote Originally Posted by NightSwimmer View Post
    Our best hope is that the Trump presidency will be short lived.
    We have the best economy we've had in over a decade, why would anyone want to go back to the anemic Obamaconomy?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Libertine View Post
    We have the best economy we've had in over a decade, why would anyone want to go back to the anemic Obamaconomy?
    Goldman Sachs CEO Lloyd Blankfein (an UBER-smart man, whatever else you might happen to think of him): "I haven't felt this good since 2006!"

    I'm not sure you understand the dark humor of that quote.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BigLeRoy View Post
    Wouldn't you be able to toilet train a bear? Maybe you'd need to invest in a heavy-duty toilet that could take a 1500 lb bear sitting on it, first...……

    I think they did have to make something like that for William Howard Taft.....
    Or get a black bear. They only weigh about 300 pounds. And they come in lots of colors not just black to match your decor.
    Last edited by Panzareta; 27th June 2018 at 09:40 PM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Libertine View Post
    We have the best economy we've had in over a decade, why would anyone want to go back to the anemic Obamaconomy?
    Because that so called anemic Obama economy was improving not declining as is this Trump economy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BigLeRoy View Post
    We could be. By the end of the summer, and especially if our trade war with China, Europe, Canada, Mexico, Japan, Australia, and other countries continues to heat up, we very well could be.

    We are already close to correction territory on the Dow, from the high it reached in late January of this year, when it topped out at 26616.71 on January 26 (2018). The Dow closed today at 24117.59, which is 90.61% of its January high. Not quite a 10% drop from the high, but getting close. Another bad few days could certainly put us into correction territory, and then another 10% drop would mark a crash, and mean that we are in a bear market.

    No one who has any sense of stock market history should be surprised by this: Trade wars lead to bear markets.

    That high in the stock market we saw last January? That was PROBABLY the high point for the stock market, for as long as Donald Trump is President. That's my prediction. You've already seen the high point, as far as the stock market is concerned, for the Trump Presidency.
    What is wrong with a Bear market?

    Economy expands slows expands more Slows expands even more slows.

    FYI in Bear markets you can make a great deal of money every heard of PREFRERRED STOCKS every heard of BONDS.. ever heard of SELLING SHORT. ever heard of DIVIDENDS, ever heard of STOCK SPLITS, ever heard of hard assets (Gold, Silver)

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    Quote Originally Posted by BigLeRoy View Post
    We could be. By the end of the summer, and especially if our trade war with China, Europe, Canada, Mexico, Japan, Australia, and other countries continues to heat up, we very well could be.

    We are already close to correction territory on the Dow, from the high it reached in late January of this year, when it topped out at 26616.71 on January 26 (2018). The Dow closed today at 24117.59, which is 90.61% of its January high. Not quite a 10% drop from the high, but getting close. Another bad few days could certainly put us into correction territory, and then another 10% drop would mark a crash, and mean that we are in a bear market.

    No one who has any sense of stock market history should be surprised by this: Trade wars lead to bear markets.

    That high in the stock market we saw last January? That was PROBABLY the high point for the stock market, for as long as Donald Trump is President. That's my prediction. You've already seen the high point, as far as the stock market is concerned, for the Trump Presidency.
    I think it will depend on three things, GDP, unemployment and trade. If GDP is over 3% I do think the market will hold up for a bit longer. Same if unemployment keeps going down. Tariffs are definitely going to hurt, but its possible people are just waiting to see what happens. I think its possible we could do ok until early next year. I think its possible we see big issues next year and into 2020.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HayJenn View Post
    Donald Trump could be running a “Morning in America” midterm campaign strategy, bragging about an economy growing as consistently as it has in over a decade with an unemployment rate tied for the lowest level in nearly half a century.Instead, he’s banking on hard-line trade and immigration policies that could excite his base while undoing economic gains from other Trump policies and nudging the U.S. toward a recession.

    On Monday alone, iconic motorcycle manufacturer Harley-Davidson said it would move some production out of the U.S. in response to Trump's tariff fight with the European Union while the Dow Jones Industrial Average tumbled over renewed fears from the president's expected new trade restrictions on China. It's all part of a high-risk trade and immigration strategy that has many Republicans, business leaders and even Trump’s former advisers deeply worried about both the politics and the economics of the president’s strategy.

    “The economy is doing exactly what we thought and hoped it would do based on what the administration was able to accomplish in tax reform and the deregulatory agenda,” Gary Cohn, Trump’s former National Economic Council director, said in an interview. “Both were aimed at stimulating the economy through growth and job creation. And that’s happened in a very positive way. Anything else that derails or confuses the economic agenda is confusing for the system.”

    Confusion is certainly coursing through the system now on both trade and immigration. Pete Wiersma, a dairy farmer from Buhl, Idaho, worries about an upcoming labor shortage. “Most dairies have more cows than what the family can take care of themselves," he said in an interview for this week’s edition of the POLITICO Money podcast. "Most of our dairies in Idaho, we are very dependent on foreign-born workers. It's the engine that makes the machine run. We've really noticed a drop-off in applicants.”

    https://www.politico.com/story/2018/...n-fears-650899
    But if you watched his rally in ND last night, the supporters there said they will give him some leeway for a while. Most of them said 6 months or so before they worry. He has convinced them he will fix the trade issue. In fact one of the things he mentioned which got me laughing, was he likened it to roasting a turkey. He said "we cant take the turkey out until its done or it will be a disaster and undone." He said trade was the same, cant panic until its all done. lol
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