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    US cities scramble to rewrite rules on recycling

    US cities scramble to rewrite rules on recycling after China restricts foreign garbage
    Tuesday, 03 July, 2018
    https://www.scmp.com/news/china/poli...ng-after-china
    China, which announced last summer that it would no longer accept “foreign garbage” as part of its broader anti-pollution campaign, initially blocked 24 types of solid waste and added 32 more varieties in April. Those will take effect by the end of next year. “The Chinese waste import restrictions have disrupted recycling programmes throughout the United States, and affected tens of millions of tonnes of scrap and recyclables since they were imposed,” said David Biderman, executive director of the Solid Waste Association of North America. “They are the most important change to these programmes in at least a decade.”
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    Has it impacted any of you guys yet? Some cities are going with the cheaper alternative of just sending the recyclables to waste-to-energy burn facilities, which I guess still sorta qualifies as recycling.

    I just got an email from my city.. effective July 9 our curbside recycling will stop. Current contract which ended this week was $50 a ton but that waste company was bought by WasteManagement which is now charging $100 a ton, so my city commissioners voted to not sign a contract, accusing WM of being a monopoly and extortion. sighs
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    I read an article recently that explained that you need to look at the little triangle on the bottom of plastic bottles. In those triangles are numbers. Anything above a 3 is no longer recyclable in the US because China isn't taking a lot of our recycling anymore. All those things above a 3 are going into a landfill now. Brilliant.
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    So, we have been shipping millions of tons of plastics to China. And, by the way, 10,000 shipping containers are lost at sea each year. Gee, I wonder where all that plastic in the ocean came from?

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    There are many things that aren't worth recycling, guess it just make people feel better about themselves.

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    Only in America.. do you call something "recycling".. by simply shipping it off-shore.

    This country ahs still no idea about recycling.. and I am very surprised. So much money to be made in it, I do not understand why the waste management industry has not picked up on it.

    12 years I am in this country now, and seeing the massive amounts of recyclable materials that still go into standard trash, every day, is mind blowing to me.

    Ecological concerns, the US barely has any until today. Not only has Europe shown them how to lead in that area for decades, now China will out perform the US on that topic as well.

    I can not recall when in Germany anyone would have last dumped a bottle, glass or plastic, into normal garbage for the last time. It's as illogical and unimaginable an action as to throw a burning cigarette butt into a garbage can.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Robert Urbanek View Post
    So, we have been shipping millions of tons of plastics to China. And, by the way, 10,000 shipping containers are lost at sea each year. Gee, I wonder where all that plastic in the ocean came from?
    Lots of it is washing down storm drains into rivers and creeks and depositing in coastal waterways...the old fashioned way.
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    Quote Originally Posted by NeoVsMatrix View Post
    Only in America.. do you call something "recycling".. by simply shipping it off-shore.

    This country ahs still no idea about recycling.. and I am very surprised. So much money to be made in it, I do not understand why the waste management industry has not picked up on it.

    12 years I am in this country now, and seeing the massive amounts of recyclable materials that still go into standard trash, every day, is mind blowing to me.

    Ecological concerns, the US barely has any until today. Not only has Europe shown them how to lead in that area for decades, now China will out perform the US on that topic as well.

    I can not recall when in Germany anyone would have last dumped a bottle, glass or plastic, into normal garbage for the last time. It's as illogical and unimaginable an action as to throw a burning cigarette butt into a garbage can.
    Look it at it this way. Landfills are just repositories for raw materials humans will dig up at a later date when we figure out what and how to deal with it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by NeoVsMatrix View Post
    Only in America.. do you call something "recycling".. by simply shipping it off-shore.

    This country ahs still no idea about recycling.. and I am very surprised. So much money to be made in it, I do not understand why the waste management industry has not picked up on it.

    12 years I am in this country now, and seeing the massive amounts of recyclable materials that still go into standard trash, every day, is mind blowing to me.

    Ecological concerns, the US barely has any until today. Not only has Europe shown them how to lead in that area for decades, now China will out perform the US on that topic as well.

    I can not recall when in Germany anyone would have last dumped a bottle, glass or plastic, into normal garbage for the last time. It's as illogical and unimaginable an action as to throw a burning cigarette butt into a garbage can.
    That's funny, have you ever been to China? Ecologically superior, that's funny. Do you know how much new coal fired electricity generation China is bringing on line this year?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Libertine View Post
    That's funny, have you ever been to China? Ecologically superior, that's funny. Do you know how much new coal fired electricity generation China is bringing on line this year?
    Do you know what a future tense is ?

    now China will outperform the US on that topic as well.
    The bolded part, is future tense. It indicates something that will happen "in the future".

    And then, you might also want to read up on "context". The context in this thread, and explicitly in my post, is "recycling".

    What is recycling, you ask ? Well, that's my whole pint, you really do not know a lot about it yet.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DebateDrone View Post
    Look it at it this way. Landfills are just repositories for raw materials humans will dig up at a later date when we figure out what and how to deal with it.
    At least say "US Americans".. HUMANS as a species have figured it out.. the US is just an ignorant sub-group ignoring it.

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