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    Quote Originally Posted by Ian Jeffrey View Post
    I think that, unless people are going to college/university/&c. anyway (i.e., a legitimate reason for not entering the work force), a guaranteed basic income merely motivates people to delay entering the work force for no particular reason. While on the one hand this general reduction in work force could help bottom-end wages to rise, it encourages people to essentially do nothing at all. While this might be a good alternative to food stamps and (especially) unemployment, it might not be the best policy to enact.


    This would be a valid purpose, though it would be a more targeted policy approach that would solve a couple different problems at once. We could have more stay-at-home parents for better parenting, fewer problems finding work within reasonable transporatation range, and fewer administrative expenses on the government side since the paperwork would be drastically reduced by obviating the need for an application and approval process.
    So how would it be set up? How could we make the system work?

    I also might add that Nixon wanted Health Care for all. He also opened the door to China.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Libertine View Post
    Two good points.
    How would you go about doing this? Ideas come from all over if we are willing to listen.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MaryAnne View Post
    So how would it be set up? How could we make the system work?
    Probably make it available to certain people in certain circumstances, rather than across the board for everyone.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ian Jeffrey View Post
    Probably make it available to certain people in certain circumstances, rather than across the board for everyone.
    $500 a month isn't really an incentive to not work.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Babba View Post
    $500 a month isn't really an incentive to not work.
    I suppose there also is going to have to be an upper limit? Or will it be more like Social Security? Will Warren Buffett get his $500 a month if he pays in all his life?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Babba View Post
    $500 a month isn't really an incentive to not work.
    Sure, the dollar amount can make a difference, and would be of different value depending on where one is living. But it can be an incentive to be underemployed as well as unemployed.

    One must also consider where the money is going to come from. This is something that would (unlike many conservative claims) be actual income redistribution.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ian Jeffrey View Post
    Sure, the dollar amount can make a difference, and would be of different value depending on where one is living. But it can be an incentive to be underemployed as well as unemployed.

    One must also consider where the money is going to come from. This is something that would (unlike many conservative claims) be actual income redistribution.
    But underemployment is already a big problem and that's one argument for a basic wage.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Babba View Post
    But underemployment is already a big problem and that's one argument for a basic wage.
    a suggestion is in order. how do other countries afford such a system?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Babba View Post
    But underemployment is already a big problem and that's one argument for a basic wage.
    "Underemployment" comprehends a couple of different things. I was referring specifically to people who work less than full-time, and in this context at lower wages. Jobs that are in the lower range to begin with are more plentiful than those that pay better that require skill/education/training, so one in that range could avoid that form of underemployment by having multiple jobs. But for someone in my position to be underemployed (which I consider myself to be - never enough clients) is a considerably different deal than someone working part-time in fast food.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Babba View Post
    But underemployment is already a big problem and that's one argument for a basic wage.
    For people on minimum wage,$500 would mean a big difference. Would not stop them from working,encourage them.
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