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    Quote Originally Posted by Blueneck View Post
    I would rather they get a tax break for helping their workers get advanced education and move from unskilled to skilled.
    Saw one doofus exec on CNBC who said something like "machines dont take vacations or ask for a raise.." Afraid a lot of them think like that. I was just saying in another thread, I went to a local warehouse store with two heavy 5 gallon water bottles and they had no humans for checkout. So I had to lift those damn things up again and scan them. Older customers or disabled ones had to check themselves out. I dont mind self scans but they need to still have a few humans to help check out. Especially at the warehouse stores where they have flatbeds and such.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wonderer View Post
    Sounds like even more reason to overhaul our immigration policies.
    I hear a lot of these jobs needing workers are not the traditional 9-5. They are for businesses with alternative business models.

    I heard a report today that a big section of jobs needing filled are restaurant staff.

    I saw a story in which the owner did not have enough staff to expand his service, but he was only open for the lunch rush.

    I don't know if this is a catch 22, he needs staff to add more service and can't add more service and more hours to offer without staff .
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    Quote Originally Posted by Blueneck View Post
    We all saw this coming, didn't we?
    A booming economy because of Trump?
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    Quote Originally Posted by bajisima View Post
    I would hope so. We knew there just isnt as many young people out there after the boomers. Plus so many boomers held on for so long. Our head engineer is 72 and he is retiring with nobody to take over. Looking for someone with 20 years experience is a daunting task. Plus they never brought in someone he could mentor and prepare. Now the shit hits the fan.
    That is a good example of half the problem. Most employers do not want to invest in training employees or any kind of training program at all.

    They send a recruiter a requisition for someone with a minimum of 5 years experience, in the same exact industry, using the same software.......

    Today with most everything automated, using Indeed as an example, someone that would be adequate for the actual position never gets matched for it.

    The other half is pay. Employers are unwilling to budge much pay, even though attracting good and loyal employees pays off in the long run. Wages and incomes are still depressed, when they start coming up, the problem will get better.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wonderer View Post
    Sounds like even more reason to overhaul our immigration policies.
    Our immigration system certainly needs an overhaul, the number of available workers isn't really the problem.

    For years growth in the working age population has exceeded job creation, the workforce grew but there weren't enough jobs. The labor force participation rate has dropped sharply. Now that labor is in demand employers are being forced to increase wages and salaries. Once employers get serious and start paying more the problem will take care of itself.

    Hopefully we are seeing it already, last month 600,000 people re-entered the workforce, that was nearly triple what was needed to fill the 200k new jobs created.
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    One area that is really struggling to fill positions is passenger transport. School bus driver shortages are pandemic across the country. My own company is even talking about improving benefits packages in order to attract and RETAIN drivers. Transit agencies and private intercity motorcoach carriers are in the same boat.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bajisima View Post
    I would hope so. We knew there just isnt as many young people out there after the boomers. Plus so many boomers held on for so long. Our head engineer is 72 and he is retiring with nobody to take over. Looking for someone with 20 years experience is a daunting task. Plus they never brought in someone he could mentor and prepare. Now the shit hits the fan.
    True.
    Heard an NPR report today that says the average family has 2 kids as opposed to 4 kids 50 years ago.
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    One area that is really struggling to fill positions is passenger transport. School bus driver shortages are pandemic across the country. My own company is even talking about improving benefits packages in order to attract and RETAIN drivers. Transit agencies and private intercity motorcoach carriers are in the same boat.
    What does that pay if you don't mind me asking?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Libertine View Post
    What does that pay if you don't mind me asking?
    It depends, school bus companies like First Student, Dunham, STA, as well as districts average between $12-18 at the low end to anywhere between $20-25 top scale. But because of the very nature of the job (split shift) it is considered part time. And especially with guaranteed hours, OT is out of the question, even with union representation. Transit agencies, it depends on the municipality but usually average around $15 for starting pay to $25-30 for top rate. But it is full time and since they are typically state agencies, benefits packages and pensions are also very generous. But again, nobody wants to put in the hours, considering they would have to work weekends and holidays. Motorcoach carriers are another story altogether. Usually with charter companies that don't operate dedicated route service as well, pay is somewhere between $16-$18/hr for starting rates. But you are on the road for considerable amounts of time. Line run companies like Greyhound average $18-$30/hr.

    And the whole problem there, is people are unwilling to put in the time for training for the license and vehicle, dealing with the public, management, and state/federal authorities. Motorcoach operators, especially tour and charter drivers, have to deal with the rigors of the road just like truckers do. The tradeoff generally is they get to stay in the same hotels with their groups. And finally school bus drivers have one of the toughest jobs of them all. Especially considering with the lack of discipline in the homes and schools, and generally very little support from the same, makes transporting 30-50 kids each and every day a real challenge.
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    I don't know why we idealize small business so much. It seems that every time there is some kind of legislation to improve working conditions or employee benefits, somebody writes in an exemption for businesses with fewer than 50 employees.

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