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    Workers barricade bosses in factories with tires

    French workers at a Goodyear plant barricaded the exits with tires as they "bossnapped" the managers after they announced the plant would close. This is not the first time workers have gone after their bosses in France due to plant closings or layoffs. Boy, Americans have gotten soft, there used to be a time when we did this kind of stuff. Now we just accept it when our plants close.

    Angry workers use tires to barricade bosses inside Goodyear factory in France

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    Quote Originally Posted by bajisima View Post
    French workers at a Goodyear plant barricaded the exits with tires as they "bossnapped" the managers after they announced the plant would close. This is not the first time workers have gone after their bosses in France due to plant closings or layoffs. Boy, Americans have gotten soft, there used to be a time when we did this kind of stuff. Now we just accept it when our plants close.

    Angry workers use tires to barricade bosses inside Goodyear factory in France
    it's illegal in this country.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bajisima View Post
    French workers at a Goodyear plant barricaded the exits with tires as they "bossnapped" the managers after they announced the plant would close. This is not the first time workers have gone after their bosses in France due to plant closings or layoffs. Boy, Americans have gotten soft, there used to be a time when we did this kind of stuff. Now we just accept it when our plants close.

    Angry workers use tires to barricade bosses inside Goodyear factory in France
    There have been some factories in various latin american countries who have taken ownership over of plants...so they allowed the owners to abandon the plant and then claimed it for themselves and organized it to stay open and profitable. I am thinking of one particular case where the owner then tried to reclaim the factory and the battle ensued....the citizens kept protecting it and wouldnt allow police in to enforce the "previous owners" retaking of the factory.

    There was a documentary made about that one factory I recall...they did a good job and were more beneficial for the locality as well....instead of taking TAX money as the previous owner did, they were actually making products for public schools and other public facilities at COST. They added to the tax purse instead of draining it...hence why local people wanted it to stay. They kept jobs and the factory was better under the new leadership.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kontrary View Post
    There have been some factories in various latin american countries who have taken ownership over of plants...so they allowed the owners to abandon the plant and then claimed it for themselves and organized it to stay open and profitable. I am thinking of one particular case where the owner then tried to reclaim the factory and the battle ensued....the citizens kept protecting it and wouldnt allow police in to enforce the "previous owners" retaking of the factory.

    There was a documentary made about that one factory I recall...they did a good job and were more beneficial for the locality as well....instead of taking TAX money as the previous owner did, they were actually making products for public schools and other public facilities at COST. They added to the tax purse instead of draining it...hence why local people wanted it to stay. They kept jobs and the factory was better under the new leadership.
    Argentina's fįbricas recuperadas movement, which emerged in response to Argentine's 2001 economic crisis,[3] is the current most significant workers' self-management phenomenon in the world. Workers took over control of the factories in which they had worked, commonly after bankruptcy, or after a factory occupation to circumvent a lockout.

    Fįbricas recuperadas means "reclaimed/recovered factories." The Spanish verb recuperar means not only "to get back", "to take back" or "to reclaim" but also "to put back into good condition".

    Workers' self-management - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
    A rational response when the job creators become the job destroyers.
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    Quote Originally Posted by labrea View Post
    A rational response when the job creators become the job destroyers.
    Its even better when you see they end up benefiting the community better and stop trying to tap into the tax purse.

    I think we need some new approaches and be willing to be more flexible..the old models are inadequate and nothing more than "concepts" that cant be turned into reality. I think its an interesting idea to have factories owned by the workers...not a few private owners, not the entire country or even area....but the people who work there and want to see it succeed but also have a real stake in the community and the impact they have on that community as a company. It drives a natural balancing force.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kontrary View Post
    There have been some factories in various latin american countries who have taken ownership over of plants...so they allowed the owners to abandon the plant and then claimed it for themselves and organized it to stay open and profitable.
    Reminds me of two pieces of evidence. First, we had an experiment here where the management went on holiday and the workers took over (through a democratic mechanism). Productivity increased. This is also supported by the general evidence, such as Logue and Yates (2006, Cooperatives, Worker-Owned Enterprises, Productivity and the International Labor Organization, Economic & Industrial Democracy, Vol 27, pp 686-690):

    ”A survey of empirical research on productivity in worker-owned enterprises and cooperatives finds a substantial literature that largely supports the proposition that worker-owned enterprises equal or exceed the productivity of conventional enterprises when employee involvement is combined with ownership. The weight of a sparser literature on cooperatives tends toward the same pattern. In addition, employee-owned firms create local employment, anchor jobs in their communities and enrich local social capital.”
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kontrary View Post
    Its even better when you see they end up benefiting the community better and stop trying to tap into the tax purse.

    I think we need some new approaches and be willing to be more flexible..the old models are inadequate and nothing more than "concepts" that cant be turned into reality. I think its an interesting idea to have factories owned by the workers...not a few private owners, not the entire country or even area....but the people who work there and want to see it succeed but also have a real stake in the community and the impact they have on that community as a company. It drives a natural balancing force.
    It reverses the idea that seems to have taken hold, that everybody is a stake holder in a business except the employee.

    It proves false the idea that only "special" people have what it takes to successfully run a business and are thus entitled to big paychecks while everybody else gets scraps.

    "When Adam delved and Eve span, who was then the gentleman"; people have been putting themselves to work since the beginning of human existence on earth. The idea that we need an elite class to make it happen for us is rubbish.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ęthelfrith View Post
    Reminds me of two pieces of evidence. First, we had an experiment here where the management went on holiday and the workers took over (through a democratic mechanism). Productivity increased. This is also supported by the general evidence, such as Logue and Yates (2006, Cooperatives, Worker-Owned Enterprises, Productivity and the International Labor Organization, Economic & Industrial Democracy, Vol 27, pp 686-690):

    ”A survey of empirical research on productivity in worker-owned enterprises and cooperatives finds a substantial literature that largely supports the proposition that worker-owned enterprises equal or exceed the productivity of conventional enterprises when employee involvement is combined with ownership. The weight of a sparser literature on cooperatives tends toward the same pattern. In addition, employee-owned firms create local employment, anchor jobs in their communities and enrich local social capital.”
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    it's illegal in this country.
    It's illegal in France.

    But the difference between the French government and US government is that the French government fears their people, while we have conservative sheep looking to use corporatism as a means to providing a pliable and easily manipulated workforce.
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