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    Quote Originally Posted by bajisima View Post
    Doesn't every candidate currently running support them? I know they sure made the rounds visiting charter schools while on the campaign trail. Such a phenomenon that I missed out on. Seems that's all the parents with young kids talks about here. We have 4 new charter schools within the last year. Never had any when my kids were young. Don't really get them to be honest.
    Oh you betcha the corrupt puppets are all in "favor", they are always in favor of "privatization"...the govt is so inept we must privatize, always the answer. We have done a ton of privatizing of the military, prisons and now education.....lets privatize all the water while we are at it, the govt has done its part to show they just cant handle it and the case is made to privatize it. Macdonalds is just gonna love the access the corp sector is handed when they can literally have kids from such a young age and shape the way we think..

    Charters schools COULD be done in a good way, but thats not gonna happen in the US and it sure isnt working very well here in Sweden either.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bajisima View Post
    Doesn't every candidate currently running support them? I know they sure made the rounds visiting charter schools while on the campaign trail. Such a phenomenon that I missed out on. Seems that's all the parents with young kids talks about here. We have 4 new charter schools within the last year. Never had any when my kids were young. Don't really get them to be honest.

    Bill Clinton supported charter schools back in the 90s, but Hillary has recently denounced them for cherry-picking students and refusing to serve special needs kids. Charter schools enjoy strong support from the Republican Party, and many Democrats have gone along with the idea of establishing charter schools over the years, as an experiment that might yield ideas for improving regular public schools. Now that charter schools have become more common, there are some disturbing problems that have cropped up with many of them, and that has taken some of the luster from the concept of public funding for schools that feature no local, public oversight of their operations.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kontrary View Post
    Oh you betcha the corrupt puppets are all in "favor", they are always in favor of "privatization"...the govt is so inept we must privatize, always the answer. We have done a ton of privatizing of the military, prisons and now education.....lets privatize all the water while we are at it, the govt has done its part to show they just cant handle it and the case is made to privatize it. Macdonalds is just gonna love the access the corp sector is handed when they can literally have kids from such a young age and shape the way we think..

    Charters schools COULD be done in a good way, but thats not gonna happen in the US and it sure isnt working very well here in Sweden either.
    Our local town meetings always have discussions on charter schools and I researched it. Had no idea it was a progressive movement thing. Was actually surprised to find that out. But then the idea got to all political persuasions. Just reading about the Clintons and Bushes and how they are big supporters of charter schools. Bill Gates has the largest group of charter schools in the US. Seems to now go across party lines. I guess some are non profit and they are considered better but then again our local public high school just decided it was ok for McDonalds, Kelloggs and Pepsi to advertise at school events and pay a portion to maintain athletic venues. So it seems all our kids are being indoctrinated to the corporate way.
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    Quote Originally Posted by NightSwimmer View Post
    Bill Clinton supported charter schools back in the 90s, but Hillary has recently denounced them for cherry-picking students and refusing to serve special needs kids. Charter schools enjoy strong support from the Republican Party, and many Democrats have gone along with the idea of establishing charter schools over the years, as an experiment that might yield ideas for improving regular public schools. Now that charter schools have become more common, there are some disturbing problems that have cropped up with many of them, and that has taken some of the luster from the concept of public funding for schools that feature no local, public oversight of their operations.

    NEA - Charter Schools
    Where do you send kids who have been kicked out of public school because they hurled a lap top at a teachers head and it resulted in a 911 ride to the hospital?

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    Where do you send kids who have been kicked out of public school because they hurled a lap top at a teachers head and it resulted in a 911 ride to the hospital?

    Juvie.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NightSwimmer View Post
    Juvie.
    At 8 years old? What chance would that provide?

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    Quote Originally Posted by NightSwimmer View Post
    Bill Clinton supported charter schools back in the 90s, but Hillary has recently denounced them for cherry-picking students and refusing to serve special needs kids. Charter schools enjoy strong support from the Republican Party, and many Democrats have gone along with the idea of establishing charter schools over the years, as an experiment that might yield ideas for improving regular public schools. Now that charter schools have become more common, there are some disturbing problems that have cropped up with many of them, and that has taken some of the luster from the concept of public funding for schools that feature no local, public oversight of their operations.

    NEA - Charter Schools
    Yea I was just reading about the Clintons and how her campaign is supposedly reassuring some states like Mass and Minn. that she still likes them since they have a lot of them. The Boston ones apparently are getting rave reviews.

    https://www.bostonglobe.com/metro/20...hcK/story.html

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    Quote Originally Posted by NightSwimmer View Post
    Juvie.
    Most areas send them off to charters. We have one just for that purpose now. An entire school with "hard to handle" students with special teachers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bajisima View Post
    Our local town meetings always have discussions on charter schools and I researched it. Had no idea it was a progressive movement thing. Was actually surprised to find that out. But then the idea got to all political persuasions. Just reading about the Clintons and Bushes and how they are big supporters of charter schools. Bill Gates has the largest group of charter schools in the US. Seems to now go across party lines. I guess some are non profit and they are considered better but then again our local public high school just decided it was ok for McDonalds, Kelloggs and Pepsi to advertise at school events and pay a portion to maintain athletic venues. So it seems all our kids are being indoctrinated to the corporate way.
    Yep because the concept of it is rather good, but without proper execution and barriers to the obvious corruption, its a horrid idea. I dont think Sweden has done a good job at all and there is a bit less corruption in the Swedish govt than there is in the US.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bajisima View Post
    Most areas send them off to charters. We have one just for that purpose now. An entire school with "hard to handle" students with special teachers.
    We literally have 100's here. My husband just landed an account that services several chains for their IT needs and it floored him of how many problem kids are attending these schools. These kids, by his description are a step above animals, they have not been taught respect for anything or anyone...and not all of them have a medical diagnosis. They destroy anything they put their hands on. My husband just installed about 100 Chrome books last month for the students, only 5 of them have not been destroyed. Some were stolen and found in the homes. The computer have tracking GPS chips inside of them and you can find them if stolen. Another reason some parents send them to charter schools is how dangerous the public schools are in their neighborhoods. If a parent has a choice of a volatile Cleveland public school and a charter school with increased security, many will choose that route. I think if we walked away from charter schools completely, there would be A LOT of kids left behind...the problem students will have no place to go and the good students will be subjected to the daily violence of the inner city public schools.

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