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    Broad support for charter schools

    Americans tend to support charter schools and widely believe that schools can have a transformative impact on people's prospects

    "Since the first charter school law was passed in Minnesota in 1991, thousands of charter schools with millions of students have emerged around the country. Charter schools are schools which receive government funding to provide education for local students, but which are not managed by the local board of education."

    "The latest research from YouGov shows that nearly half of Americans (46%) support charter schools, while only 25% oppose them. Support is strongest among Republicans (58%), while Democrats (39% to 36%) are more divided. Support for charter schools is also higher among the wealthiest Americans, those earning over $100,000 a year (60%) than it is among the poorest who earn under $50,000 a year (45%)."


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    Good charter schools are good. Bad charter schools aren't. It's a mixed bag--like most things.

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    The problem is that a VERY high percentage of charter schools are shutting down. For instance, the 2014-2015 school year saw 38 new charter schools in Florida. And the same state saw 35 charter school shut down in the same timeframe. Arizona and Texas had more charter school closures than new schools opening.

    And nationally, for every three new charter schools that were opened, two others were shut down. That's pretty serious, IMO.

    https://www.redefinedonline.org/2016...chool-closure/

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    Quote Originally Posted by Djinn View Post
    The problem is that a VERY high percentage of charter schools are shutting down. For instance, the 2014-2015 school year saw 38 new charter schools in Florida. And the same state saw 35 charter school shut down in the same timeframe. Arizona and Texas had more charter school closures than new schools opening.

    And nationally, for every three new charter schools that were opened, two others were shut down. That's pretty serious, IMO.

    https://www.redefinedonline.org/2016...chool-closure/

    That might explain why they don't enjoy majority support.
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    I won't go into the program my school did again,but suffice to say it was incredible. Instead of making people compete for charter schools, make the public schools compete with each other. That's what we did and we had the most amazing schools

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    Quote Originally Posted by Isalexi View Post
    I won't go into the program my school did again,but suffice to say it was incredible. Instead of making people compete for charter schools, make the public schools compete with each other. That's what we did and we had the most amazing schools
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    Is what your school did in another thread somewhere here? Can you link it to me or tell me the title?

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    The charter school thing could work if it were regulated better but as it stands, its nothing more but privatizing public school and is another pathway for major corps to get a direct line to drain the tax purse.

    Its a good way to also bring back segregation...as charter schools can cherry pick their students and the state has to pay for it...easy to make sure not many "black kids" or many "white kids" are allowed....

    Lack of Oversight of Charter Schools Designed as a Plus; $3.3+ Billion Spent (Part 2) | PR Watch

    That is, there is no systematic public accounting for how the federal budget allocated to charters is actually being spent, and not even a reliable per-pupil/per capita figure. And the devil really is in the details.

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    What is known about the resource allocation in charter schools vis-ŕ-vis traditional public schools paints a very troubling picture, as demonstrated most starkly by CPD’s report on criminal fraud in charter schools.

    However, fraud is just one of the major problems in the lack of adequate controls over how Americans’ taxes are being spent in the charter industry. A 2012 study by the National Center for the Study of Privatization in Education at Columbia University found that charter schools spent “nearly $800 more per pupil per year on administration and $1100 less on instruction.”

    http://www.saonm.org/media/news_pdf/...FY15_Audit.pdf

    Today, State Auditor Tim Keller released the Public Education Department’s (PED) most recent annual financial audit. The audit report, completed by independent accounting firm Axiom, LLC, examines the fiscal year 2015 finances of PED and the charter schools it is responsible for overseeing. The audit report identifies over 200 weaknesses in PED and charter school financial management, the most findings of any state agency. Issues include a $21 million understatement, a pattern of financial control problems at charter schools, and ongoing background check and licensure failures.
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    Most folks who oppose charter schools don't do so because charter schools are inherently bad, but because they understand that the charter school movement is merely one aspect of an overall strategy to eliminate our public education system, rather than repairing it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by NightSwimmer View Post
    Most folks who oppose charter schools don't do so because charter schools are inherently bad, but because they understand that the charter school movement is merely one aspect of an overall strategy to eliminate our public education system, rather than repairing it.
    Doesn't every candidate currently running support them? I know they sure made the rounds visiting charter schools while on the campaign trail. Such a phenomenon that I missed out on. Seems that's all the parents with young kids talks about here. We have 4 new charter schools within the last year. Never had any when my kids were young. Don't really get them to be honest.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bajisima View Post
    Doesn't every candidate currently running support them? I know they sure made the rounds visiting charter schools while on the campaign trail. Such a phenomenon that I missed out on. Seems that's all the parents with young kids talks about here. We have 4 new charter schools within the last year. Never had any when my kids were young. Don't really get them to be honest.
    It seems that charter schools represent different learning opportunities for different States....here they are last chance schools for troubled kids who have been kicked out of public school for behavior...mostly violent. We have academies for the gifted kids...but charter schools by far out number them. I think the support comes from...what can we do with these kids? We can't deny them a chance at a education and we can't allow them to disrupt public schools. Home school is the last resort and many don't graduate from HS with that option because they don't have the structure to see them succeed which is parental. As a parent...do you want your children in public school sitting there with problem kids who disrupt the class everyday and learn nothing?

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