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    Quote Originally Posted by kmiller1610 View Post
    But the dispute in question did not include the N word or any reference to the race of the proper noun the adjective was applied to. I can't see how anyone could object to a wrong use of a word. I certainly didn't. I am sure I misuse words all the time. And I appreciate corrections based on dictionaries and proper tools for writing. It is the application of a politician prophylactic that I object to. That is the evil of PC. Words suddenly have magical powers that have no connections to context, intent or even their normal, dictionary meanings. But the prophylactic has worked and I totally understand the desire to use power to get more power. I object on principle and on the basis of semantic truth.
    Given the history of that particular word, adding the N word is not necessary.
    Nor is it the "wrong use of a word." It was the intentional use of a word that is used to put down black people who think they're the equal of whites. That's the history of the term that has no place in the modern world.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Madeline View Post
    Nobody is stifling you. Feel free to express racist ideas, as far as the mods will permit.

    I shall ignore you if you do, but so what?
    What racist idea have I ever expressed? Try hard. You won't find it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kmiller1610 View Post
    But the dispute in question did not include the N word or any reference to the race of the proper noun the adjective was applied to. I can't see how anyone could object to a wrong use of a word. I certainly didn't. I am sure I misuse words all the time. And I appreciate corrections based on dictionaries and proper tools for writing. It is the application of a politician prophylactic that I object to. That is the evil of PC. Words suddenly have magical powers that have no connections to context, intent or even their normal, dictionary meanings. But the prophylactic has worked and I totally understand the desire to use power to get more power. I object on principle and on the basis of semantic truth.
    I find this to be a niggardly complaint on your part. And I mean that in ALL sincerity.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BigLeRoy View Post
    I find this to be a niggardly complaint on your part. And I mean that in ALL sincerity.
    Many agree with you. But it's been hammered into my brain that words are only symbols of the meanings the individual intends.

    Communication is the process of evoking the meaning in the listener's mind that matches the intention of the speaker.

    So when the listener says "in my mind that word in that context has a racist meaning and I wish you would use another word"

    I say, "not my intention, I will use another word."

    And so I shall.

    But when the state says, you can't use that word and if you do, you will be punished, then the entire communication process is interrupted. And I see that tendency becoming the norm.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BigLeRoy View Post
    I find this to be a niggardly complaint on your part. And I mean that in ALL sincerity.
    There was a teacher fired for using that Frugal term

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    Quote Originally Posted by TNVolunteer73 View Post
    There was a teacher fired for using that Frugal term
    That brings up a question of the intelligence of the school board.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kmiller1610 View Post
    Many agree with you. But it's been hammered into my brain that words are only symbols of the meanings the individual intends.

    Communication is the process of evoking the meaning in the listener's mind that matches the intention of the speaker.

    So when the listener says "in my mind that word in that context has a racist meaning and I wish you would use another word"

    I say, "not my intention, I will use another word."

    And so I shall.

    But when the state says, you can't use that word and if you do, you will be punished, then the entire communication process is interrupted. And I see that tendency becoming the norm.

    It's just the black man holding you down, brother.

    Keep hope alive!!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by kmiller1610 View Post
    What racist idea have I ever expressed? Try hard. You won't find it.
    I agree. So why are you struggling to accept that "uppity" has racist connotations when directed at someone black?

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    Quote Originally Posted by TNVolunteer73 View Post
    There was a teacher fired for using that Frugal term
    Link?

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    Quote Originally Posted by kmiller1610 View Post
    Many agree with you. But it's been hammered into my brain that words are only symbols of the meanings the individual intends.

    Communication is the process of evoking the meaning in the listener's mind that matches the intention of the speaker.

    So when the listener says "in my mind that word in that context has a racist meaning and I wish you would use another word"

    I say, "not my intention, I will use another word."

    And so I shall.

    But when the state says, you can't use that word and if you do, you will be punished, then the entire communication process is interrupted. And I see that tendency becoming the norm.
    "The state"? Are you getting snail mail from Obama about your vocabulary?

    No one even suggested banning "uppity" on PH, which is private property.
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