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    Quote Originally Posted by Dittohead not! View Post
    How are we to know who the racists, homophobes, and misogynists are if they can't use words that are racist, homophobic, or misogynistic?
    Well, they can use dog-whistle words or phrases, like 'welfare queen' or 'rug-muncher' or 'fudge-packer'. Or they could just say that she "has blood coming out of her where-ever". You know, phrases like that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kmiller1610 View Post
    Here's a funny parable for you. Notice the use of growl words to intimidate and the struggle of people to agree on the meanings of words.
    That IS a funny parable. And I'm guessing that is how you think it REALLY happened.

    It can't be, because my ancestor Og is nowhere in the story. And he got ALL the girls.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Leo2 View Post
    Actually, 100 years or more ago, gay was an adjective - there was no such noun (except perhaps as a short form of 'nose gay').

    And marriage, whilst practiced in various forms, was not formally defined thousands of years ago.

    Marriage predates recorded history. But early marriage was seen as a strategic alliance between families, with the youngsters often having no say in the matter. Monogamy became the guiding principle for Western marriages sometime between the sixth and the ninth centuries, but in fact, polygamy was common throughout history. From Jacob, to Kings David and Solomon, Biblical men often had anywhere from two to thousands of wives.

    The state may have defined it more recently, but marriage varied from culture to culture and there never was one universal definition. Marriages in the West were originally contracts between the families of two partners, with the Church and the state staying out of it.
    If I had "thousands of wives", I would be one busy dude. I don't think I'd have time for anything else.

    Remember the scene in 'Little Big Man', where Dustin Hoffman was expected to be able to satisfy three Indian maidens in one night? His wife, and her two sisters? I was JEALOUS, watching that scene, but Dustin in the movie says it kind of shriveled him up. Poor guy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BigLeRoy View Post
    If I had "thousands of wives", I would be one busy dude. I don't think I'd have time for anything else.

    Remember the scene in 'Little Big Man', where Dustin Hoffman was expected to be able to satisfy three Indian maidens in one night? His wife, and her two sisters? I was JEALOUS, watching that scene, but Dustin in the movie says it kind of shriveled him up. Poor guy.
    Yeah, when I read that in an article, I immediately surmised hyperbole - but as I have no evidence either way about Biblical times (or even that these people ever existed,) I thought I better leave the reported 'facts' alone.

    Also, I guess one could have hundreds of wives as some Eastern potentates did (thousands is too OTT) and not satisfy all of them in a year.

    BTW, never saw 'Little Big Man' - it came out a quarter of a century before I was born.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BigLeRoy View Post
    That IS a funny parable. And I'm guessing that is how you think it REALLY happened.

    It can't be, because my ancestor Og is nowhere in the story. And he got ALL the girls.
    Parables are made up stories to illustrate ideas and bits of truth. I'm sure you know this.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Leo2 View Post
    Basically, the lesson I take from this thread is - give a little thought to the personalities, circumstances, and possible sensitivities of people to whom you are speaking. Using terms which may possibly be taken as racially, culturally, or nationally derisive of others cannot achieve anything of value - no matter how much you may feel you are entitled to that subjective value - 'freedom of speech'. With any freedom comes responsibility, and what satisfactions may be obtained from gratuitously offending others?
    In addition to your lesson, I would add the following. People shape language to their own collective tastes, sense of style and desire to make language their own. It has always been this way and that is as it should be. I enjoy the exploration of semantics and how people react to language. That is not a "lesson" per se, but a personal interest of mine.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BigLeRoy View Post
    Well, they can use dog-whistle words or phrases, like 'welfare queen' or 'rug-muncher' or 'fudge-packer'. Or they could just say that she "has blood coming out of her where-ever". You know, phrases like that.
    But then their supporters can claim that they aren't what they clearly are.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Leo2 View Post
    Yeah, when I read that in an article, I immediately surmised hyperbole - but as I have no evidence either way about Biblical times (or even that these people ever existed,) I thought I better leave the reported 'facts' alone.

    Also, I guess one could have hundreds of wives as some Eastern potentates did (thousands is too OTT) and not satisfy all of them in a year.

    BTW, never saw 'Little Big Man' - it came out a quarter of a century before I was born.
    Little Big Man is a CLASSIC, and you should GO OUT OF YOUR WAY to find a copy and watch it.
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