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    Clinton's charter school comments draw boos from teachers union

    "Hillary Clinton on Tuesday said traditional public schools and charter schools should share ideas — a remark met with boos by delegates from the National Education Association’s representative assembly. To the thousands of teachers gathered at the labor union’s annual conference, Clinton said “when schools get it right, whether they are traditional public schools or public charter schools, let’s figure out what’s working ... and share it with schools across America.”

    "The Clintons are longtime charter school supporters, but charters are opposed by many teachers union members. Clinton was endorsed in October by the NEA — at a critical time in the Democratic primary. But Clinton’s support for charters has created some unease among rank-and-file union members, some of whom view charter schools as a threat to the survival of traditional schools."

    Many Republican politicians wholeheartedly support charter schools. But even as President Barack Obama’s administration has backed them, Democrats are more divided as to whether charters are good for public education.


    Sounds a bit petty that the teachers union would boo this comment. Didn't see a whole lot to be appalled at frankly. Charter school issue is supposedly going to be one of the top 5 issues this fall for the general.

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    I cant imagine many school teachers voting for Trump....
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    Quote Originally Posted by bajisima View Post
    "Hillary Clinton on Tuesday said traditional public schools and charter schools should share ideas — a remark met with boos by delegates from the National Education Association’s representative assembly. To the thousands of teachers gathered at the labor union’s annual conference, Clinton said “when schools get it right, whether they are traditional public schools or public charter schools, let’s figure out what’s working ... and share it with schools across America.”

    "The Clintons are longtime charter school supporters, but charters are opposed by many teachers union members. Clinton was endorsed in October by the NEA — at a critical time in the Democratic primary. But Clinton’s support for charters has created some unease among rank-and-file union members, some of whom view charter schools as a threat to the survival of traditional schools."

    Many Republican politicians wholeheartedly support charter schools. But even as President Barack Obama’s administration has backed them, Democrats are more divided as to whether charters are good for public education.


    Sounds a bit petty that the teachers union would boo this comment. Didn't see a whole lot to be appalled at frankly. Charter school issue is supposedly going to be one of the top 5 issues this fall for the general.

    Clinton's charter school comments prompt boos at teachers union event - POLITICO
    Teachers hate the thought of Charter Schools because they feel it is competition and with competition they need to step up their game.
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    LOL, "Advocating For Students." ****ing NEA. Shameless.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HCProf View Post
    Teachers hate the thought of Charter Schools because they feel it is competition and with competition they need to step up their game.
    There are more than one type of charter school. The best have education squarely in their aim. These tend to be locally supported charters that don't have profit as the underlying purpose.

    There are also charters schools that corporatize education, are often multi-city or multi-state, have profit firmly entrenched as the reason they exist, and often fail. Ten years ago, about half of the charter schools were corporate. Five years later the number dropped to about one third -- leaving school systems scrambling to take up students of failed charters.

    I agree that the traditional model of education as we knew it is sometimes hostile to charter schools for the reason you identified but also because not all charter schools have quality education as their chief concern.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ARMCX1 View Post
    There are more than one type of charter school. The best have education squarely in their aim. These tend to be locally supported charters that don't have profit as the underlying purpose.

    There are also charters schools that corporatize education, are often multi-city or multi-state, have profit firmly entrenched as the reason they exist, and often fail. Ten years ago, about half of the charter schools were corporate. Five years later the number dropped to about one third -- leaving school systems scrambling to take up students of failed charters.

    I agree that the tradition model of education as we knew it is sometimes hostile to charter schools for the reason you identified but also because not all charter schools have quality education as their chief concern.
    I see the opposite...I see Charter schools scrambling to take in the students of failed public schools. Most of the Charter schools around here...take in the kids that the public schools cannot handle...the problem kids. It is hard to provide a quality education when class room management is the goal of the day. There are many reasons a parent will send a child to a charter school, some refuse to send their kids to a inner city school and safety is a concern, some kids have been kicked out of public schools for behavior, some kids are moved to charter schools because they are bullied at public schools. The Charter schools for the gifted are also available, and the reason that parents will choose those over public schools, is they want their children to learn instead of watch the teacher fight for classroom management constantly. There are some days in the High School I work, where I am lucky to get 20 minutes of solid instruction a day due to classroom management. Parents are not raising the most respectful kids these days. I also work with some of the laziest teachers you could ever imagine....and their Union allows them to be this way. There are bad actors in the public system along with the Charter schools. Monitor the bad apples and make the corrections if needed, but parents deserve a choice and say in their children's education. Charter schools provide options.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bajisima View Post
    Charter school issue is supposedly going to be one of the top 5 issues this fall for the general.

    Whomever made that prediction is a dumbass. Charter schools are an experiment that has met with a mixture of successes and failures, but it isn't a major issue in the presidential election -- not even among public school teachers.
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    Quote Originally Posted by HCProf View Post
    Teachers hate the thought of Charter Schools because they feel it is competition and with competition they need to step up their game.

    Why the visceral hatred for teachers?
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    Quote Originally Posted by NightSwimmer View Post
    Why the visceral hatred for teachers?
    Well I am a teacher...and I just hate the lazy ones, the ones who do not care and the ones who are just there for personal gain...probably the ones that you love and support.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NightSwimmer View Post
    Whomever made that prediction is a dumbass. Charter schools are an experiment that has met with a mixture of successes and failures, but it isn't a major issue in the presidential election -- not even among public school teachers.
    Education not specifically charter schools.
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