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    Oh, trust me, I do NOT want PUBLIC money going to PRIVATE schools.

    However, I would like it if we put some "competition" in the Public system, to some degree (Yea, it would probably be too complicated to do so, but still...IF we could find a way)

    And, unfortunately, for many children, their parents will NEVER take all that active of a role in their education. (IF and WHEN Parents do, those children tend to do very well, even in "failing" schools....)

    Still, though...there has to be an answer other than "throw more taxpayer money at education."

    (I would start by DEMANDING that ALL "Tax" hikes, "For Education," be earmarked for education, and education ONLY. Too often, politicians have played a bait and switch shell game with those funds: Raising taxes "for education," only to shift those funds into general accounts a few years later.)

    The one thing I do agree with Hillary on, is that PARENTAL INVOLVEMENT is THE most important factor: ALL children should be "home-schooled," in ADDITION to going to whatever school they go to......

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rorschach View Post
    Oh, trust me, I do NOT want PUBLIC money going to PRIVATE schools.

    However, I would like it if we put some "competition" in the Public system, to some degree (Yea, it would probably be too complicated to do so, but still...IF we could find a way)

    And, unfortunately, for many children, their parents will NEVER take all that active of a role in their education. (IF and WHEN Parents do, those children tend to do very well, even in "failing" schools....)

    Still, though...there has to be an answer other than "throw more taxpayer money at education."

    (I would start by DEMANDING that ALL "Tax" hikes, "For Education," be earmarked for education, and education ONLY. Too often, politicians have played a bait and switch shell game with those funds: Raising taxes "for education," only to shift those funds into general accounts a few years later.)

    The one thing I do agree with Hillary on, is that PARENTAL INVOLVEMENT is THE most important factor: ALL children should be "home-schooled," in ADDITION to going to whatever school they go to......
    Can't disagree with that, I also think at the corporate level, the foundations being set up to advance the sciences and math in schools are showing some early signs of success, one is CPAP, which is a cooperative between tech companies and school systems to bring more vibrant examples of technology into the schools curriculum. When it started the attendance was very low, and that's due to the fact that middle school kids and high school kids were rushing home to take care of siblings as parents were working.

    So as a function of that, we set up afterschool programs for younger children, and that allowed the older kids to attend CPAP workshops. Some of the kids really benefited from it, being taught the elements of physics in high school versus getting the opportunity to build a hovercraft goes a long way to spark interests.

    This program was adopted by companies who are in a higher stratosphere of revenue; and because tech firms have a considerable interest in the development of the human resources for their roadmaps, it works out for everyone.

    Very successful program CPAP is, I was involved during it's inception many years ago.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MaryAnne View Post
    Much worse,and Kansans are really paying the price for Brownback. Republicans went along.

    In Ohio the Republican Legislature went against Kasich and replaced the last millions he tried to cut. All this to build a Rainy Day fund. Republicans have begged him to use some of it. Kasich refused.

    He wanted that to brag about in his run for President.
    That son of a bitch.

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    On television , bernie sanders was proclaiming a plan for free college tuition for families earning less than $120,000 and i called senatorial office , which stated that his plan was for free college tuition for all , whereas it is the proposal of hillary to only cover those earning $120,000 or less .

    The hilllary clinton campaign was then called and the stupidity of such a proposal was related .

    Alternatively , a suggestion was related that accruing 8% interest on college loans is usury of financial thieves and that to support higher education her platform would be better off endorsing an accrual cap of 2% interest .

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    Quote Originally Posted by Monk-Eye View Post
    " Clatter Matter "

    * Dilly Billy *

    On television , bernie sanders was proclaiming a plan for free college tuition for families earning less than $120,000 and i called senatorial office , which stated that his plan was for free college tuition for all , whereas it is the proposal of hillary to only cover those earning $120,000 or less .

    The hilllary clinton campaign was then called and the stupidity of such a proposal was related .

    Alternatively , a suggestion was related that accruing 8% interest on college loans is usury of financial thieves and that to support higher education her platform would be better off endorsing an accrual cap of 2% interest .
    Shouldn't you be out diddling a stupid somewhere else? I'm sure you have a vaginal probe nearby.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rorschach View Post
    Oh, trust me, I do NOT want PUBLIC money going to PRIVATE schools.

    However, I would like it if we put some "competition" in the Public system, to some degree (Yea, it would probably be too complicated to do so, but still...IF we could find a way)

    And, unfortunately, for many children, their parents will NEVER take all that active of a role in their education. (IF and WHEN Parents do, those children tend to do very well, even in "failing" schools....)

    Still, though...there has to be an answer other than "throw more taxpayer money at education."

    (I would start by DEMANDING that ALL "Tax" hikes, "For Education," be earmarked for education, and education ONLY. Too often, politicians have played a bait and switch shell game with those funds: Raising taxes "for education," only to shift those funds into general accounts a few years later.)

    The one thing I do agree with Hillary on, is that PARENTAL INVOLVEMENT is THE most important factor: ALL children should be "home-schooled," in ADDITION to going to whatever school they go to......
    But that is exactly what Kasich has done in Ohio. Funneled Public Funds into Charter Schools where they have a scandal a week, confiscating money and raking off with it.

    In the last Legislative session Kasich cut public funding so deep his Republican Legislature put it back in.

    The Charter School scandals have become so bad the Legislature passed a Law for much tighter over sight to stop the stealing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PACE View Post
    Can't disagree with that, I also think at the corporate level, the foundations being set up to advance the sciences and math in schools are showing some early signs of success, one is CPAP, which is a cooperative between tech companies and school systems to bring more vibrant examples of technology into the schools curriculum. When it started the attendance was very low, and that's due to the fact that middle school kids and high school kids were rushing home to take care of siblings as parents were working.

    So as a function of that, we set up afterschool programs for younger children, and that allowed the older kids to attend CPAP workshops. Some of the kids really benefited from it, being taught the elements of physics in high school versus getting the opportunity to build a hovercraft goes a long way to spark interests.

    This program was adopted by companies who are in a higher stratosphere of revenue; and because tech firms have a considerable interest in the development of the human resources for their roadmaps, it works out for everyone.

    Very successful program CPAP is, I was involved during it's inception many years ago.

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    There are very good programs here that Community Colleges are creating. Early College in High Schools. Sinclair Community College is now working with others to present 4 year Degrees. Vocational Schools really give the basic background for Higher Education. You come out to high paying jobs or continue on to College. It is amazing how they are changing so fast.

    No thanks to Kasich.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Monk-Eye View Post
    " Clatter Matter "

    * Dilly Billy *

    On television , bernie sanders was proclaiming a plan for free college tuition for families earning less than $120,000 and i called senatorial office , which stated that his plan was for free college tuition for all , whereas it is the proposal of hillary to only cover those earning $120,000 or less .

    The hilllary clinton campaign was then called and the stupidity of such a proposal was related .

    Alternatively , a suggestion was related that accruing 8% interest on college loans is usury of financial thieves and that to support higher education her platform would be better off endorsing an accrual cap of 2% interest .

    Private banks don't want to provide student loans if they can't screw the students. Privatization of public functions always entails screwing the public.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MaryAnne View Post
    There are very good programs here that Community Colleges are creating. Early College in High Schools. Sinclair Community College is now working with others to present 4 year Degrees. Vocational Schools really give the basic background for Higher Education. You come out to high paying jobs or continue on to College. It is amazing how they are changing so fast.

    No thanks to Kasich.
    Not true at all...Kasich is the reason for the funding of these programs. Under Strickland, our HS was starving for money and funding. We now have community college professors teaching general education courses in our voctech school, just bought a ton of modern equipment, Now have affiliations with all the colleges to accept our course work as college credits.....all funded under Kasich. Even though, Kasich went after collective bargaining, the teachers where I work, still support him, we would never want to return to the Strickland days. Plus, we all know how much of a joke collective bargaining actually is....smoke and mirrors. If a school wants rid of you, the Union sits back and lets it happen. 80.00 a month spent for absolutely nothing. I have seen many teachers pink slipped out the door with nothing done in return by the Union.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HCProf View Post
    Not true at all...Kasich is the reason for the funding of these programs. Under Strickland, our HS was starving for money and funding. We now have community college professors teaching general education courses in our voctech school, just bought a ton of modern equipment, Now have affiliations with all the colleges to accept our course work as college credits.....all funded under Kasich. Even though, Kasich went after collective bargaining, the teachers where I work, still support him, we would never want to return to the Strickland days. Plus, we all know how much of a joke collective bargaining actually is....smoke and mirrors. If a school wants rid of you, the Union sits back and lets it happen. 80.00 a month spent for absolutely nothing. I have seen many teachers pink slipped out the door with nothing done in return by the Union.

    Labor unions exist to protect worker's rights, but they have no obligation to support a worker who is not doing their job. One of the benefits of Union labor is the provision of a superior work force. Without that bargaining chip, employers would have no reason to prefer a unionized work force, and many do prefer Union labor.

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