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    Quote Originally Posted by NightSwimmer View Post
    Junior High students hardly had any contact at all with Senior High students back when I attended High School. Not during school hours anyway. I find this fascination with 18 year olds having sex with 11 year olds simply because they attend school in the same building to be just a bit creepy.
    Not sure why you're addressing that to me?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Djinn View Post
    I dunno... Putting eleven year-old kids in the same school as seventeen year-olds... Given the nature of puberty, they're practically different species. I'd rather see them eliminate summer vacation, which is actually detrimental to education. Typically, teachers spend at least two months refreshing students on material forgotten over the summer.
    That is what they did in one room School Houses in the 19TH Century.

    The average High School student is now talking Advanced College Courses in High School. Many have Asscociate Degrees when they leave High School. This is a whole different world we live in today.

    The Summer vacation is much shorter. Kids go back to School in Auguest,beget out much later.

    I am amazed at the changes in good Schools.

    Ohio Charter Schools have stolen millions from tax payers. and are fast losing students. As our Investigative Paper put it. They have run out of victims.

    Notice, I speak only for my State. I am sure there are good Charter Schools. Kasich's friends ruined their money pit in Ohio.
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    Quote Originally Posted by NightSwimmer View Post
    Six grades of elementary school and six grades of high school was the norm when I was growing up. Either that, or all 12 grades in a single school complex. Kindergarten wasn't part of the public school system back in those days. Anyone who attended kindergarten attended a private school at their own expense. High schools in those days were typically separated into Junior High (Grades 7 and 8) and Senior High (grades 9 - 12).

    I had never heard of a "middle school" until court mandated desegregation forced the school systems to be reconfigured to do away with all-white and all-black schools. Most public schools these days (at least in the region in which I live) don't take a full summer vacation any longer. They now take a 6 week break in winter and a 6 week break in summer.
    Pretty much the same where I grew up. I also think that might still be the norm in many small communities. Two schools, one 1-6 (we don't have mandated kindergarten in NH) and then 7-12. Some high schools literally graduate 50 students so its easier to know them individually. Many from the same family. In a big district though that becomes less likely, they graduate up to a thousand students and need a lot more supervision. Difficult topic with probably many solutions.
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    Quote Originally Posted by NightSwimmer View Post
    Junior High students hardly had any contact at all with Senior High students back when I attended High School. Not during school hours anyway. I find this fascination with 18 year olds having sex with 11 year olds simply because they attend school in the same building to be just a bit creepy.
    We did. If a 7th grader took an entry level Spanish class for example, there was a possibility of a senior or two in that class. There was no differentiation in classes, you took what you wanted and where it fit in your schedule. The only cases where they tried to keep a separation was in lunch and gym class. But if an 8th grader was exceptional and wanted to take an AP class they could. Again though, I am not sure if that would be the case in a large district like Boston though. They might separate out levels or have wings for classes.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wonderer View Post
    Not sure why you're addressing that to me?

    It wasn't addressed specifically to you. You aren't the only one who brought it up.

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    Our school was a bit unusual... Our elementary school was K-6, and the middle school covered grades 7-8. However, it was all in one building. The interior structure was such that the elementary school students never encountered the middle school students - even in the hallways. Elementary students were relegated to one section of the building. Middle school students to another.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bajisima View Post
    We did. If a 7th grader took an entry level Spanish class for example, there was a possibility of a senior or two in that class. There was no differentiation in classes, you took what you wanted and where it fit in your schedule. The only cases where they tried to keep a separation was in lunch and gym class. But if an 8th grader was exceptional and wanted to take an AP class they could. Again though, I am not sure if that would be the case in a large district like Boston though. They might separate out levels or have wings for classes.

    In our 7-12 high school, the Junior High was in a separate wing of the building from the Senior High. We had separate sports teams and cheerleaders. Lunch schedules also kept the Junior High and Senior High students separated. The only time we were all together was in the auditorium or in the gym for pep rallies. At any rate, I don't understand why students of different age groups coming together in a school environment would be considered a risk for sexual activity any more so than would any other setting that would bring together people of different ages.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Djinn View Post
    Our school was a bit unusual... Our elementary school was K-6, and the middle school covered grades 7-8. However, it was all in one building. The interior structure was such that the elementary school students never encountered the middle school students - even in the hallways. Elementary students were relegated to one section of the building. Middle school students to another.

    My grade 1-6 elementary school was segregated into two separate hallways, with two separate playgrounds. We did share a common lunchroom, and all grades ate lunch together.

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    I would be open to the idea of basic public schooling including two more years, with every student having the opportunity to graduate with either an Associates Degree or an equivalent two year technical degree. This could be done, in my opinion, with our existing network of Junior Colleges, Technical Schools and Community Colleges.

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    With a 7th grader and a 3rd grader right now, I'm pretty happy with our current system here (K-5, 6-8, & 9-12).

    Of that system mentioned in the OP, I actually have bigger concerns for bringing 6th graders down with kindergarteners a first graders than I do lumping the 7th & 8th graders in with older high schoolers.
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