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    Quote Originally Posted by boontito View Post
    With a 7th grader and a 3rd grader right now, I'm pretty happy with our current system here (K-5, 6-8, & 9-12).

    Of that system mentioned in the OP, I actually have bigger concerns for bringing 6th graders down with kindergarteners a first graders than I do lumping the 7th & 8th graders in with older high schoolers.

    Schools in my area tended to divvy up as K-4, 5-8 and 9-12 after they were forced to reconfigure everything to accomplish racial desegregation.
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    Quote Originally Posted by NightSwimmer View Post
    It wasn't addressed specifically to you. You aren't the only one who brought it up.
    In fact, I didn't bring it up at all.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wonderer View Post
    In fact, I didn't bring it up at all.

    No, you didn't. You merely agreed with the sentiment.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NightSwimmer View Post
    No, you didn't. You merely agreed with the sentiment.
    No, I didn't. You made an assumption. My comment was: "I'd be a little leery of 7-12. There truly is a world of difference between 11 and 17-18, and I appreciated the presence of junior high/middle school as a "buffer zone" between childhood and full-blown teenage-dom." I said nothing about, "18 year olds having sex with 11 year olds simply because they attend school in the same building." Others did. I did not.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NightSwimmer View Post
    Junior High students hardly had any contact at all with Senior High students back when I attended High School. Not during school hours anyway. I find this fascination with 18 year olds having sex with 11 year olds simply because they attend school in the same building to be just a bit creepy.
    We were in the same High School. Brand new, the 7/8 were separate from 9/12. But the world is in a far different place today.

    The advances in Technology have advanced so far it is very much the norm for Advanced College courses.
    Today.

    Kids are going to think about sex if you put the in Separare Schools. More so,if separated. Forbidden fruit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wonderer View Post
    No, I didn't. You made an assumption. My comment was: "I'd be a little leery of 7-12. There truly is a world of difference between 11 and 17-18, and I appreciated the presence of junior high/middle school as a "buffer zone" between childhood and full-blown teenage-dom." I said nothing about, "18 year olds having sex with 11 year olds simply because they attend school in the same building." Others did. I did not.

    Okay. It sounded like you were agreeing with those previous comments. Your comment must not have been intended to imply a concern for sexual activity between teens and preteens. Sorry that I misunderstood your meaning.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MaryAnne View Post
    We were in the same High School. Brand new, the 7/8 were separate from 9/12. But the world is in a far different place today.

    The advances in Technology have advanced so far it is very much the norm for Advanced College courses.
    Today.

    Kids are going to think about sex if you put the in Separare Schools. More so,if separated. Forbidden fruit.

    Kids are going to think about sex no matter what we adults do to attempt to prevent it. As I recall, kids I went to school with were fascinated by sexuality even before we were old enough to understand how it worked.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NightSwimmer View Post
    I would be open to the idea of basic public schooling including two more years, with every student having the opportunity to graduate with either an Associates Degree or an equivalent two year technical degree. This could be done, in my opinion, with our existing network of Junior Colleges, Technical Schools and Community Colleges.
    That is not a bad idea. It seems that the majority of schools other than the Votechs, are preparing kids for college and we assume they all want to attend college. Every HS graduate should have a skill in case they would like to work for a a few years. They could use that to to work part time while in college.
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    We bought a house directly across from a new High School with an Elementory right behind. They went to the 6 TH grade,then on to High School.

    Bussing would send them clear across twin. We moved to the Suburbs. So did anyone who could afford to. All races. Instead of fixing the poorer Schools, Congress in it's wisdom destroyed City Schools.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bajisima View Post
    This is an interesting debate and one gaining popularity in an age of declining enrollment and rejected school budgets..

    Boston Superintendent Tommy Chang, grappling with a sharp enrollment decline in the middle grades, is floating the idea of creating a system of elementary schools that end at grade 6 and high schools that start at grade 7, a move that could radically alter the fabric of most schools across the city. Chang said the new configurations could boost the quality of education for seventh- and eighth-graders by concentrating support services in fewer schools.

    The idea being considered would try to streamline a school system with more than 20 grade configurations into a system of schools that is predominantly K-6 and 7-12. In many instances, K-8 schools would become K-6s, while elementary schools, which now end in fifth grade, would add a sixth grade. High schools, meanwhile would add seventh and eighth graders to their mix.

    In just the last 10 years, charter schools have added nearly 2,000 seats in grades 6, 7, and 8, according to a Globe analysis of state enrollment figures. During that same time, middle-grade enrollment in the city’s school system has dropped by about the same number. Now, students in the city school system are spread so thin that many middle schools have a fraction of the students they once educated, and many K-8s, even popular ones like the Hurley and Mission Hill, are struggling to fill their seats, raising concerns about possible school closings.

    Can see both pros and cons in this scenario. Not sure a lot of parents of 7th graders would want them in the same environment as 12th graders but on the other hand more potential options as far as AP classes and more choices could be a positive.

    Boston superintendent ponders making high schools grades 7 to 12 - The Boston Globe
    Personally, I think we should get away from this idea that everyone must pass high school. Some folks are not cut out for high school, let alone college, and that's fine... because we need a labor force reflecting a range of skills and capability. Not everyone is cut out to be a famous physicist or some such thing.

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