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    Quote Originally Posted by MaryAnne View Post
    We bought a house directly across from a new High School with an Elementory right behind. They went to the 6 TH grade,then on to High School.

    Bussing would send them clear across twin. We moved to the Suburbs. So did anyone who could afford to. All races. Instead of fixing the poorer Schools, Congress in it's wisdom destroyed City Schools.

    I remember when inner city schools were the very best of the public schools. It had to do with the local tax base being the determining factor of a particular public school's overall financial support. When people of better financial means began to flee the cities for the suburbs, that left the inner city schools with inadequate funding.
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    Quote Originally Posted by NightSwimmer View Post
    Okay. It sounded like you were agreeing with those previous comments. Your comment must not have been intended to imply a concern for sexual activity between teens and preteens. Sorry that I misunderstood your meaning.
    Thanks. No - my comment had to do with where kids are developmentally/socially. Older teens are confronted with many issues - driving, drugs, alcohol, romantic relationships (and yes, sex), college admissions, etc. - which adolescents (ideally) are not, or at least not to the same extent. They're at a different place in their lives, and I don't think it a bad idea for there to be a buffer between them. I was happy to keep my kiddo with other 6th through 8th graders while she was in middle school. Now she's a big ol' Freshman and it's a whole different ball of wax!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chief View Post
    Personally, I think we should get away from this idea that everyone must pass high school. Some folks are not cut out for high school, let alone college, and that's fine... because we need a labor force reflecting a range of skills and capability. Not everyone is cut out to be a famous physicist or some such thing.

    What would you suggest they do? Get a well paying job with great benefits at the local factory?

    That's what they did back when I was a kid, but most of those jobs have been outsourced to third world countries nowadays.

    Guess they can ♪ Be all that they can be ♪, and join the Army?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wonderer View Post
    Thanks. No - my comment had to do with where kids are developmentally/socially. Older teens are confronted with many issues - driving, drugs, alcohol, romantic relationships (and yes, sex), college admissions, etc. - which adolescents (ideally) are not, or at least not to the same extent. They're at a different place in their lives, and I don't think it a bad idea for there to be a buffer between them. I was happy to keep my kiddo with other 6th through 8th graders while she was in middle school. Now she's a big ol' Freshman and it's a whole different ball of wax!

    We did a pretty good job of separating ourselves by age groups even when we did attend school in the same building. Not too many HS seniors wanted to be seen hanging out with seventh graders.
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    Quote Originally Posted by NightSwimmer View Post
    My grade 1-6 elementary school was segregated into two separate hallways, with two separate playgrounds. We did share a common lunchroom, and all grades ate lunch together.
    In my middle school (7th and 8th grade), our cafeteria was segregated into 7th graders and 8th graders. When I was in seventh, nearly all of my friends who shared the same lunch period as me were in 8th grade. So I flaunted the rules, and sat with them pretty much every day. And each time I was caught, they hauled me down to the principal's office. As I expected, after a few weeks of routinely having to spend time scolding me for "sitting on the wrong side of the cafeteria," (with no other offenses) it was decided to eliminate the segregated seating.
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    Quote Originally Posted by NightSwimmer View Post
    What would you suggest they do? Get a well paying job with great benefits at the local factory?

    That's what they did back when I was a kid, but most of those jobs have been outsourced to third world countries nowadays.

    Guess they can ♪ Be all that they can be ♪, and join the Army?
    The military is not a bad choice. A similar choice for folks that don't have the aptitude for higher education is a trade school. Then, some can join unskilled labor pools. We need all of that in our workforce.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Djinn View Post
    In my middle school (7th and 8th grade), our cafeteria was segregated into 7th graders and 8th graders. When I was in seventh, nearly all of my friends who shared the same lunch period as me were in 8th grade. So I flaunted the rules, and sat with them pretty much every day. And each time I was caught, they hauled me down to the principal's office. As I expected, after a few weeks of routinely having to spend time scolding me for "sitting on the wrong side of the cafeteria," (with no other offenses) it was decided to eliminate the segregated seating.
    Rebel! You remind me of me when I bucked the unwritten "skirt-suits only" rule and started sporting pant-suits at my old firm and to court.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chief View Post
    Personally, I think we should get away from this idea that everyone must pass high school. Some folks are not cut out for high school, let alone college, and that's fine... because we need a labor force reflecting a range of skills and capability. Not everyone is cut out to be a famous physicist or some such thing.
    Oh no Chief...we must get them through HS....or we will have a dumbed down society and a bunch of quitters. Everyone is able to complete HS....we offer lots of options for that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chief View Post
    The military is not a bad choice. A similar choice for folks that don't have the aptitude for higher education is a trade school. Then, some can join unskilled labor pools. We need all of that in our workforce.

    Looks to me like we have more unskilled laborers these days than we have unskilled labor jobs capable of providing for basic living expenses.

    The military isn't a bad idea, if you don't mind paying them with taxpayer funds. I just don't see how the military provides much return in the way of GDP.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wonderer View Post
    Rebel! You remind me of me when I bucked the unwritten "skirt-suits only" rule and started sporting pant-suits at my old firm and to court.
    My younger brother was more of a rebel... He quit the highschool newspaper after the administration refused to print one or more of his articles. He was told, "It's the school's paper, and we get final say on content. If you don't like it, start your own newspaper." He took this to heart, and started his own newspaper, paying for the photocopying costs. The school confiscated the lot of them - and returned them when they realized that the confiscation was illegal, and instructed him not to distribute any more copies until the matter was resolved. So he gave all of the copies to two or three friends and said "No matter what, don't distribute these!" The mitigating part of the whole fiasco is that his paper really did kinda suck.

    Now he's a math teacher at that same high school.
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