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    Quote Originally Posted by thrilling View Post
    Dealing with the following subjects.

    1: Frustration
    2: Rejection
    3: Peer Pressure
    4: Heart Break
    5: Jealousy
    6: Feelings of inadequacy
    7: All things about sex and what it does to us, not just showing us a Condom.

    There are countless more subjects that would be so beneficial for young people to deal with and learn about, that would prepare them better for life than many
    other subjects that are taught now.
    I'd like to see more schools put a strong emphasis on a required class that specifically covers "Shit you should know once you're out of school, if not sooner."

    Topics would include:
    • How to balance a checkbook
    • How credit and debit cards work
    • How mortgages work
    • Scams, and how to recognize them
    • Living within your actual means, not your perceived means
    • Contrast: home ownership vs. rental
    • Contrast: car purchase vs. lease
    • Investment basics
    • Job hunting, evaluating opportunities
    • Contrast: contractor vs. employee
    • Assessing health benefit packages
    • How to calculate the affordability of a home
    • Saving for retirement
    • Insurance basics (home, car, life)
    • Economic impact of raising children


    There are probably more, but this is a good start. I didn't include "resume-writing," since that's normally covered in other classes.

    Edit: Added two to the end
    Last edited by Djinn; 21st October 2016 at 11:43 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by thrilling View Post
    That is the real premise of my post. Broken families. Abusive parents. Neglect. Parents that have not dedicated crucial time in developing their kids socially.
    Not all(and I say this lightly)kids have the ability to overcome busted home lives and spring out in the world with a vigor to crush life.
    No they don't. There were three of us, myself, little brother and sister. My brother died at 46, a drug addict. My sister is sitting in a trailer in northern Arkansas stoned out of her gizzard, pretty much her natural state since high school, dying of emphysema.

    However, after twenty years of watching students slowly morph into their parents more often than not, despite sometimes intensive counseling and drug therapy, I can tell you there is no such thing as a government mandated alternative to a functioning family unit. There just isn't.

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    Quote Originally Posted by thrilling View Post
    Dealing with the following subjects.

    1: Frustration
    2: Rejection
    3: Peer Pressure
    4: Heart Break
    5: Jealousy
    6: Feelings of inadequacy
    7: All things about sex and what it does to us, not just showing us a Condom.

    There are countless more subjects that would be so beneficial for young people to deal with and learn about, that would prepare them better for life than many
    other subjects that are taught now.
    take away the phones and computers..... and you know, have them practice..... real life.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Djinn;[URL="tel:4807930"
    4807930[/URL]]I'd like to see more schools put a strong emphasis on a required class that specifically covers "Shit you should know once you're out of school, if not sooner."

    Topics would include:
    • How to balance a checkbook
    • How credit and debit cards work
    • How mortgages work
    • Scams, and how to recognize them
    • Living within your actual means, not your perceived means
    • Contrast: home ownership vs. rental
    • Contrast: car purchase vs. lease
    • Investment basics
    • Job hunting, evaluating opportunities
    • Contrast: contractor vs. employee
    • Assessing health benefit packages
    • How to calculate the affordability of a home
    • Saving for retirement

    There are probably more, but this is a good start. I didn't include "resume-writing," since that's normally covered in other classes.
    That will happen the very minute those subjects are included on the mandated tests for common core. Until then........you'll have to teach your little ones about some of the pitfalls of today's society. Good luck.

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    Quote Originally Posted by thrilling View Post
    Counselors in my opinion do not solve the problem. Sure they can discuss for 45 minutes every other day with the kid that they have a bad home. They can even engage in good healthy conversation, but it is miniscule compared to what many kids need.
    I would love that kids be empowered with knowledge about themselves and how to handle life in a safe and healthy way.
    Especially those kids who don't have much of a chance.
    I said that school counselors can GUIDE them to the proper place to help them with specific problems/issues.
    I did NOT say anything about the counselors "solving the problem."

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    Quote Originally Posted by syrenn View Post
    take away the phones and computers..... and you know, have them practice..... real life.
    Computers and phones are.....real life.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Djinn View Post
    I'd like to see more schools put a strong emphasis on a required class that specifically covers "Shit you should know once you're out of school, if not sooner."

    Topics would include:
    • How to balance a checkbook
    • How credit and debit cards work
    • How mortgages work
    • Scams, and how to recognize them
    • Living within your actual means, not your perceived means
    • Contrast: home ownership vs. rental
    • Contrast: car purchase vs. lease
    • Investment basics
    • Job hunting, evaluating opportunities
    • Contrast: contractor vs. employee
    • Assessing health benefit packages
    • How to calculate the affordability of a home
    • Saving for retirement

    There are probably more, but this is a good start. I didn't include "resume-writing," since that's normally covered in other classes.
    I took an elective class in this when I was a Freshman in college called Personal Finance. It was a awesome class.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ian Jeffrey View Post
    Parents need to learn how to deal with that stuff with kids. Those that do not are just plain neglectful.
    ...in some cases I've seen over the years "neglect" is the best you can hope for.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dutch View Post
    ...in some cases I've seen over the years "neglect" is the best you can hope for.
    You should work in a Clinic sometime...neglect can turn into horrific sights that you wish you had never seen. Some of the worse neglect starts before they poor child even starts school. The parents probably step it up a bit, since the neglect can be reported and seen by many.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jacobfitcher View Post
    I think it's a great idea. Parents aren't doing a very good job of teaching children the coping skills necessary. The skills needed today are different than the ones needed in the 60s, 70s, and 80s.
    I beg to differ. Some families, particularly intact biological parents with functional values are doing a great job. Blended families somewhat less so. These sad collections of individuals, often with drug and alcohol issues, often create toxic environments fir the children trapped in their homes. The children from those environments are the ones who break your heart.

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