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    Can/Should middle schools teach subjects that many parents don't know how to?

    Dealing with the following subjects.

    1: Frustration
    2: Rejection
    3: Peer Pressure
    4: Heart Break
    5: Jealousy
    6: Feelings of inadequacy
    7: All things about sex and what it does to us, not just showing us a Condom.

    There are countless more subjects that would be so beneficial for young people to deal with and learn about, that would prepare them better for life than many
    other subjects that are taught now.
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    Quote Originally Posted by thrilling View Post
    Dealing with the following subjects.

    1: Frustration
    2: Rejection
    3: Peer Pressure
    4: Heart Break
    5: Jealousy
    6: Feelings of inadequacy
    7: All things about sex and what it does to us, not just showing us a Condom.

    There are countless more subjects that would be so beneficial for young people to deal with and learn about, that would prepare them better for life than many
    other subjects that are taught now.
    You learn how to deal with such things by going out into the real world and living life and NOT sitting in your room frantically tweeting, facebooking, e-mailing, Snapchatting and whatever else dumb shit they occupy themselves with.

    Play team sports, be part of organizations such as Boy/Girl Scouts, etc. Then there are activities such as work. I was mowing neighbors yards, shoveling snow, having a paper route, etc. by the age of 12 or 13, got a work permit at age 15.
    "heart break?" When you realize that you really did not die with the first one you understand it's just part of life.
    Hopefully a kid has supportive and reasonably wise parents.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hollywood View Post
    You learn how to deal with such things by going out into the real world and living life and NOT sitting in your room frantically tweeting, facebooking, e-mailing, Snapchatting and whatever else dumb shit they occupy themselves with.

    Play team sports, be part of organizations such as Boy/Girl Scouts, etc. Then there are activities such as work. I was mowing neighbors yards, shoveling snow, having a paper route, etc. by the age of 12 or 13, got a work permit at age 15.
    "heart break?" When you realize that you really did not die with the first one you understand it's just part of life.
    Hopefully a kid has supportive and reasonably wise parents.

    That is the real premise of my post. Broken families. Abusive parents. Neglect. Parents that have not dedicated crucial time in developing their kids socially.
    Not all(and I say this lightly)kids have the ability to overcome busted home lives and spring out in the world with a vigor to crush life.
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    Parents need to learn how to deal with that stuff with kids. Those that do not are just plain neglectful.
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    I think it's a great idea. Parents aren't doing a very good job of teaching children the coping skills necessary. The skills needed today are different than the ones needed in the 60s, 70s, and 80s.
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    I think 2 of the 3 biggest motivators for crime are Revenge and Sex(Money being the other). So even if lawmakers didn't give a shit about kids, but just wanted to reduce crime, that they
    would pay more attention to these ideas.

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    Quote Originally Posted by thrilling View Post
    That is the real premise of my post. Broken families. Abusive parents. Neglect. Parents that have not dedicated crucial time in developing their kids socially.
    Not all(and I say this lightly)kids have the ability to overcome busted home lives and spring out in the world with a vigor to crush life.
    People who cannot deal with life successfully is ALSO just part of life.
    I am all in favor of having trained counselors in schools who can guide troubled or abused to the proper agency/resource to help them.
    However, I do not feel it is the place of the public schools to "teach" children the "subjects" you refer to in your original post on this matter.
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    I think teachers teach these things with their daily interactions with students. The first 6 can be accomplished with a little love, patience, and understanding. Heavy on praise and good feedback on their work...such as tips to make the assignment better instead of just pointing out what they did wrong. As far as #6....the parents are your partner in this one...and it is best to stick to the health and anatomy side. If they start asking questions about feelings, technique, and how-to's, you enter dangerous territory with the parents and it could look like you are a weird freak...it can easily be misinterpreted. I have gotten the question...about when they should have sex with their boyfriend the first time...what I want to say..."Boys are natural born liars and they will tell you anything to get you to do it, respect yourself because they will drag your reputation through the mud" LOL I usually just refer them back to their Mom or parent and tell them that is a personal decision.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hollywood View Post
    People who cannot deal with life successfully is ALSO just part of life.
    I am all in favor of having trained counselors in schools who can guide troubled or abused to the proper agency/resource to help them.
    However, I do not feel it is the place of the public schools to "teach" children the "subjects" you refer to in your original post on this matter.
    Most schools have Counselors and they are a valuable resource when it comes to abuse, home life, and possible legal issues. You are correct, teachers are not trained to do that even tho we are mandated reporters...let the counselors handle that by making a referral to them. Kids are different today, even with a unstable home life, they are coddled and protected in many cases from life. Teachers do need to assist in this because it really takes a village these days to mentor these young minds.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hollywood View Post
    People who cannot deal with life successfully is ALSO just part of life.
    I am all in favor of having trained counselors in schools who can guide troubled or abused to the proper agency/resource to help them.
    However, I do not feel it is the place of the public schools to "teach" children the "subjects" you refer to in your original post on this matter.

    Counselors in my opinion do not solve the problem. Sure they can discuss for 45 minutes every other day with the kid that they have a bad home. They can even engage in good healthy conversation, but it is miniscule compared to what many kids need.
    I would love that kids be empowered with knowledge about themselves and how to handle life in a safe and healthy way.
    Especially those kids who don't have much of a chance.
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