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    How US colleges hooked up with controversial Chinese companies

    Thomas Benson once ran a small liberal arts college in Vermont. Stephen Gessner served as president of the school board for New York’s Shelter Island. More recently, they’ve been opening doors for Chinese education companies seeking a competitive edge: getting their students direct access to admissions officers at top U.S. universities.

    Over the past seven years, Benson and Gessner have worked as consultants for three major Chinese companies. They recruited dozens of U.S. admissions officers to fly to China and meet in person with the companies' student clients, with the companies picking up most of the travel expenses. Among the schools that participated: Cornell University, the University of Chicago, Stanford University and the University of California, Berkeley.

    Two companies Benson and Gessner have represented – New Oriental Education & Technology Group Inc and Dipont Education Management Group – offer services to students that go far beyond meet-and-greets with admissions officers. Eight former and current New Oriental employees and 17 former Dipont employees told Reuters the firms have engaged in college application fraud, including writing application essays and teacher recommendations, and falsifying high school transcripts.

    The new insight into the business practices of Chinese education companies comes at a time when American colleges are relying more heavily on Chinese undergraduates, who tend to pay full tuition. Helping Chinese kids get into U.S. schools has become a significant industry, with hundreds of companies having sprung up in China to cash in. These businesses often charge large sums for services that sometimes include helping students cheat on standardized tests and falsifying their college applications.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bajisima View Post
    Thomas Benson once ran a small liberal arts college in Vermont. Stephen Gessner served as president of the school board for New York’s Shelter Island. More recently, they’ve been opening doors for Chinese education companies seeking a competitive edge: getting their students direct access to admissions officers at top U.S. universities.

    Over the past seven years, Benson and Gessner have worked as consultants for three major Chinese companies. They recruited dozens of U.S. admissions officers to fly to China and meet in person with the companies' student clients, with the companies picking up most of the travel expenses. Among the schools that participated: Cornell University, the University of Chicago, Stanford University and the University of California, Berkeley.

    Two companies Benson and Gessner have represented – New Oriental Education & Technology Group Inc and Dipont Education Management Group – offer services to students that go far beyond meet-and-greets with admissions officers. Eight former and current New Oriental employees and 17 former Dipont employees told Reuters the firms have engaged in college application fraud, including writing application essays and teacher recommendations, and falsifying high school transcripts.

    The new insight into the business practices of Chinese education companies comes at a time when American colleges are relying more heavily on Chinese undergraduates, who tend to pay full tuition. Helping Chinese kids get into U.S. schools has become a significant industry, with hundreds of companies having sprung up in China to cash in. These businesses often charge large sums for services that sometimes include helping students cheat on standardized tests and falsifying their college applications.

    Open Doors: How US colleges hooked up with controversial Chinese firms


    Hasn't it always been that way, though?

    In the 70s, it was Middle Easterners; in the 80s, the Japanese.

    Different country, same old pay-to-play BS.

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    Frank, you are quite right. The Colleges were inundated by Middle Easterners in the 80's. Many of them had Government grants,too. I saw this first hand and researched it for that reason.

    US Students resented it.
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    It's actually good business sense from the university standpoint.

    Freshmen and sophomore years are designed to get kids to washout of college to see who has the abilities to move on, college get's easier the further along you get.

    Well not necessarily easier but with a lot less busy work.

    Odds are that most of these foreign students will not making it far if they had to cheat to get in so the university get's their money then get's another open seat, not a bad deal at all.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Frank View Post
    Hasn't it always been that way, though?

    In the 70s, it was Middle Easterners; in the 80s, the Japanese.

    Different country, same old pay-to-play BS.
    Yep American Universities are whores for foreign money.

    Had a student from Hong Kong at Indiana University when I was there. His grade point average was 0.0 something. Definitely not university material but he stayed and took classes semester after semester. It appears money from the rich parents was a factor.

    But at least one math prof I had, didn't give a damn about the success of middle easterners. He was using a card game as an analogy and when one of the middle eastern students raised his hand, commenting he didn't understand because he didn't play cards, the response was, "not my problem." So apparently the student was good for his money but...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Spookycolt View Post
    It's actually good business sense from the university standpoint.

    Freshmen and sophomore years are designed to get kids to washout of college to see who has the abilities to move on, college get's easier the further along you get.

    Well not necessarily easier but with a lot less busy work.

    Odds are that most of these foreign students will not making it far if they had to cheat to get in so the university get's their money then get's another open seat, not a bad deal at all.
    I doubt that's what it says in their mission statements.

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    Quote Originally Posted by EnigmaO01 View Post
    Yep American Universities are whores for foreign money.

    Had a student from Hong Kong at Indiana University when I was there. His grade point average was 0.0 something. Definitely not university material but he stayed and took classes semester after semester. It appears money from the rich parents was a factor.

    But at least one math prof I had, didn't give a damn about the success of middle easterners. He was using a card game as an analogy and when one of the middle eastern students raised his hand, commenting he didn't understand because he didn't play cards, the response was, "not my problem." So apparently the student was good for his money but...
    I knew a Chinese student back in the day who quit going to classes because he decided to be a pool hustler. He managed to stay in school by spinning a yarn about being homesick, and dumped by his girlfriend.
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