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    Lockers in schools

    I am curious as to where that idea came from. It seems to be unique to North America.

    In Russian and other ex-Soviet schools, there are no lockers, just a coat room on the first floor, right behind that ornate metal screen




    The lobby front desk person

    usually locks it all up for the day, after everyone hung up their coats and jackets and what not. You need a teacher's note to access during the day.

    And no lockers in the PE change room either, just a bench and some hooks on the wall


    In Japan, they only have shoe lockers, some without even lids


    German schools also have no lockers, according to this: Differences between German and American high schools - Tori Dykes

    Nor, it seems, do most British schools: 18 Reasons British Teens Were Jealous Of High School In America

    I remember when I first came to Canada and started high school here, I was totally blown away by the lockers (actual photos of my school, from a visit back some time ago)



    Lockers in the PE change room too



    I was fascinated by them. This kid, Igor Timofeev, another Russian kid, whom the counselor asked to escort me around the school, give me a tour of the place, and basically help me adapt and adjust; he'd been here way longer, with his family, pretty much grew up here, since he was like 5. So, he couldn't understand what the big deal was, to him, they were just lockers lol But I'd never seen anything like this before haha

    I think, possibly, there is a whole philosophy to this, a political symbolism, of sorts.

    Maybe over here, in US and Canada, we value personal privacy much more than in many other places, and this is a way of teaching that to kids early on?

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    Where I live lockers are in schools at the middle and high school level. They are optional. The school actually charges a fee if you want a locker. When I was a kid lockers were free but in today's world, schools are always looking to make a buck. The high school here charges $60 a year for a parking permit. Really? When I was in school we didn't have parking permits and we didn't pay to park or to use a locker.

    Kids keep their books, homework, coats, lunch, etc. in those lockers. You just grab what you need for the next class or two when you pass by that locker. It makes it easier than having to carry everything with you. Backpacks have become the rage. Kids carry everything in the backpack which is removing the need for those lockers.
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    I always looked at lockers to prevent theft. Lockers are fine and dandy until the last day of school and the teachers are helping the custodial staff to clean them out. I am pretty sure I discovered a couple of lower form mammals living in them which evolved from old food and smelly clothes. LOL You would be surprised what one can find in a locker after 9 months.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Man View Post
    I think, possibly, there is a whole philosophy to this, a political symbolism, of sorts.

    Maybe over here, in US and Canada, we value personal privacy much more than in many other places, and this is a way of teaching that to kids early on?
    Perhaps a greater sense of personal independence remains within the cultures of North American nations simply because they are relatively new in comparison to old world nations?

    Both the United States and Canada were European colonies just a few generations ago, prior to gaining their independence.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Southern Dad View Post
    Where I live lockers are in schools at the middle and high school level. They are optional. The school actually charges a fee if you want a locker. When I was a kid lockers were free but in today's world, schools are always looking to make a buck. The high school here charges $60 a year for a parking permit. Really? When I was in school we didn't have parking permits and we didn't pay to park or to use a locker.

    Kids keep their books, homework, coats, lunch, etc. in those lockers. You just grab what you need for the next class or two when you pass by that locker. It makes it easier than having to carry everything with you. Backpacks have become the rage. Kids carry everything in the backpack which is removing the need for those lockers.
    In my case, I believe I (or, my older sister, rather, who I was living with and who was acting as my legal guardian in Canada) had to pay a security deposit for the locker, can't recall now how much, definitely less than $60, but I believe we got that money back at end of term, if left no serious damage to the locker lol Also, you had to buy your own lock. Which are like $1-2 at the mall.

    Quote Originally Posted by HCProf View Post
    I always looked at lockers to prevent theft. Lockers are fine and dandy until the last day of school and the teachers are helping the custodial staff to clean them out. I am pretty sure I discovered a couple of lower form mammals living in them which evolved from old food and smelly clothes. LOL You would be surprised what one can find in a locker after 9 months.
    I remember a drug syringe was found at a locker in my school once... Crazy. One of the guys from India, probably. The Indians were known to deal, and I'm pretty sure some of them were using too, all kinds of shit. Big brouhaha, there was police called to the school, etc.

    Quote Originally Posted by NightSwimmer View Post
    Perhaps a greater sense of personal independence remains within the cultures of North American nations simply because they are relatively new in comparison to old world nations?

    Both the United States and Canada were European colonies just a few generations ago, prior to gaining their independence.
    Indeed. Canada, of course, remained a Dominion well into the 20th century, and still recognizes the Queen as nominal head of state, represented by the Governor General. It always fascinated me. I love it. Such a unique system

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    The $60 is for the parking permit and space. The locker is $5 per year. It's called a cleaning fee.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Southern Dad View Post
    When I was a kid lockers were free but in today's world, schools are always looking to make a buck.
    That's just demanding to be memed for so many reasons.
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    My grandfather explained this once to me during one of our "how things used to be" discussions. He said lockers arrived at the local school post World War II when funding increased to the level where students were issued textbooks of their own for each class. They simply needed a place to keep them as they were now responsible for bringing them to and from each classroom. Prior to that, the textbook belonged to the individual classroom. You'd come into history class, sit down, and use the same history textbook that the kid who sat there during the previous hour used.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Man View Post

    I was fascinated by them. This kid, Igor Timofeev, another Russian kid, whom the counselor asked to escort me around the school, give me a tour of the place, and basically help me adapt and adjust; he'd been here way longer, with his family, pretty much grew up here, since he was like 5. So, he couldn't understand what the big deal was, to him, they were just lockers lol But I'd never seen anything like this before haha

    I think, possibly, there is a whole philosophy to this, a political symbolism, of sorts.

    Maybe over here, in US and Canada, we value personal privacy much more than in many other places, and this is a way of teaching that to kids early on?
    Where do Russian's stuff their geeky kids?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Davocrat View Post
    Where do Russian's stuff their geeky kids?
    BTW, that was just a joke. Please don't post a series of crystal clear photos of kids being bullied "Russian style"!!

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