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    Do they still recite the Pledge of Allegiance" in grade school?

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    Pretty Orwellian thing to make young kids do....imo.
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    Do they still recite the Pledge of Allegiance" in grade school?

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    Pretty Orwellian thing to make young kids do....imo.
    Most public schools still do: https://undergod.procon.org/view.add...ourceID=000074

    Of course, the SCOTUS has ruled that individual student participation must be voluntary. Students can't be forced to recite the pledge.

    In a handful of states, that means that they need permission from a parent or guardian in order to opt out.
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    Yes; I have two kids. One in middle school, the other in high school, and they are both asked to recite the pledge each morning, while the in-class screen displays a video of a flag.

    My son recently called the repetition of it "creepy," and I'm inclined to agree. If you want to demonstrate allegiance to your country, then do something meaningful rather than reciting a memorized chant.
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    Quote Originally Posted by NightSwimmer View Post
    Most public schools still do: https://undergod.procon.org/view.add...ourceID=000074

    Of course, the SCOTUS has ruled that individual student participation must be voluntary. Students can't be forced to recite the pledge.

    In a handful of states, that means that they need permission from a parent or guardian in order to opt out.
    I find that scary.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Djinn View Post
    Yes; I have two kids. One in middle school, the other in high school, and they are both asked to recite the pledge each morning, while the in-class screen displays a video of a flag.

    My son recently called the repetition of it "creepy," and I'm inclined to agree. If you want to demonstrate allegiance to your country, then do something meaningful than reciting a memorized chant.
    Many dummy voters believe that just citing the pledge makes you a patriot.
    They all voted for Trumo.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Djinn View Post
    Yes; I have two kids. One in middle school, the other in high school, and they are both asked to recite the pledge each morning, while the in-class screen displays a video of a flag.

    My son recently called the repetition of it "creepy," and I'm inclined to agree. If you want to demonstrate allegiance to your country, then do something meaningful than reciting a memorized chant.
    We don't do it...but it is a Votech HS. The only time I see the Pledge is opening for graduation in the Spring. I am actually kind of surprised that the amount of schools still do this. Since this is causing so much drama and outrage across the Country, schools should stop doing it and allow parents to teach respect for their Country at home. School administrators have enough to do than deal with drama.
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    Quote Originally Posted by HCProf View Post
    We don't do it...but it is a Votech HS. The only time I see the Pledge is opening for graduation in the Spring. I am actually kind of surprised that the amount of schools still do this. Since this is causing so much drama and outrage across the Country, schools should stop doing it and allow parents to teach respect for their Country at home. School administrators have enough to do than deal with drama.
    Trump grew up mouthing the words but thinking we should be pledging allegiance to him.

    (or maybe he took the "Indivisible" part as a dare)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Devil505 View Post
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    Pretty Orwellian thing to make young kids do....imo.
    They do here, the National Anthem as well. In our high school, the anthem is sung by a different student each morning usually a choir member.

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    I know it's not what people think of when they talk about separation of church and state, but having what are effectively prayers of allegiance, a flag icon, and a hymn to sing every morning before classes start sounds like the merger of state and religion to me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Devil505 View Post
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    Pretty Orwellian thing to make young kids do....imo.
    You already knew the answer

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