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    Law Professor Absolutely Destroys Student Letter Protesting Her Wearing a 'Black Lives Matter' T-Shirt

    A little while ago some first year law students saw fit to write a letter to their professor, protesting the professor’s wearing of a ‘Black Lives Matter’ t-shirt during lectures.

    The letter called the t-shirt ‘highly offensive’ and ‘inappropriate’.

    In and of itself, that is not a particularly remarkable story. It’s just some idiots painfully trying to conflate awareness campaigns with this nebulous concept of ‘divisiveness’—really stretching the English language and logic itself to breaking point to try and argue that simply pointing out injustice is a terribly political act that seeks to drive a wedge in society; that it’s best to stay quiet and respectable, and wait for the system to do the right thing. Of course they trot out the old favourite too—with ‘All Lives Matter’ making a delightful appearance.

    So far, so stupid, so vanilla.

    Where this takes an absolutely delightful turn is when the letter-writing freshmen decide to bring the full weight of their knowledge of the law, and the might of their unmatched powers of debate, against their professor. And then the professor decides that here is an opportune chance to do what she, as a scholar at a higher institute of education, does best:

    Take some punkass bitches to school.




    Click the link to read the whole piece, which includes students' letter and the professor's response. Truly well done.

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    Silly throughout. But somewhat entertaining, I admit.

    Looks to me like this is probably Vermont Law School, based on the not-quite-perfect redaction...

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    That was pretty awesome.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Neomalthusian View Post
    Silly throughout. But somewhat entertaining, I admit.

    Looks to me like this is probably Vermont Law School, based on the not-quite-perfect redaction...

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    At the end of the article it says it's from Whittier Law School.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ian Jeffrey View Post
    Law Professor Absolutely Destroys Student Letter Protesting Her Wearing a 'Black Lives Matter' T-Shirt

    A little while ago some first year law students saw fit to write a letter to their professor, protesting the professor’s wearing of a ‘Black Lives Matter’ t-shirt during lectures.

    The letter called the t-shirt ‘highly offensive’ and ‘inappropriate’.

    In and of itself, that is not a particularly remarkable story. It’s just some idiots painfully trying to conflate awareness campaigns with this nebulous concept of ‘divisiveness’—really stretching the English language and logic itself to breaking point to try and argue that simply pointing out injustice is a terribly political act that seeks to drive a wedge in society; that it’s best to stay quiet and respectable, and wait for the system to do the right thing. Of course they trot out the old favourite too—with ‘All Lives Matter’ making a delightful appearance.

    So far, so stupid, so vanilla.

    Where this takes an absolutely delightful turn is when the letter-writing freshmen decide to bring the full weight of their knowledge of the law, and the might of their unmatched powers of debate, against their professor. And then the professor decides that here is an opportune chance to do what she, as a scholar at a higher institute of education, does best:

    Take some punkass bitches to school.




    Click the link to read the whole piece, which includes students' letter and the professor's response. Truly well done.
    Mr. Jeffrey,

    Wow, just like a lawyer. You send out one sentence, a lawyer sends back ten.

    Somebody should remind the law professor there are no billable hours here.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kallie Knoetze View Post
    Wow, just like a lawyer. You send out one sentence, a lawyer sends back ten.
    All of which clearly refute and properly instruct the students who sent the letter - which was not, to the professor's dismay, written in a lawyerly fashion.

    Quote Originally Posted by Kallie Knoetze View Post
    Somebody should remind the law professor there are no billable hours here.
    I am reasonably certain her salary more than adequately compensates her for properly instructing her students.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ian Jeffrey View Post
    Law Professor Absolutely Destroys Student Letter Protesting Her Wearing a 'Black Lives Matter' T-Shirt

    A little while ago some first year law students saw fit to write a letter to their professor, protesting the professor’s wearing of a ‘Black Lives Matter’ t-shirt during lectures.

    The letter called the t-shirt ‘highly offensive’ and ‘inappropriate’.

    In and of itself, that is not a particularly remarkable story. It’s just some idiots painfully trying to conflate awareness campaigns with this nebulous concept of ‘divisiveness’—really stretching the English language and logic itself to breaking point to try and argue that simply pointing out injustice is a terribly political act that seeks to drive a wedge in society; that it’s best to stay quiet and respectable, and wait for the system to do the right thing. Of course they trot out the old favourite too—with ‘All Lives Matter’ making a delightful appearance.

    So far, so stupid, so vanilla.

    Where this takes an absolutely delightful turn is when the letter-writing freshmen decide to bring the full weight of their knowledge of the law, and the might of their unmatched powers of debate, against their professor. And then the professor decides that here is an opportune chance to do what she, as a scholar at a higher institute of education, does best:

    Take some punkass bitches to school.




    Click the link to read the whole piece, which includes students' letter and the professor's response. Truly well done.
    Thanks for sharing that, it reminds me of just how wonderful some Professors can be in teaching critical thinking skills.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kallie Knoetze View Post
    Mr. Jeffrey,

    Wow, just like a lawyer. You send out one sentence, a lawyer sends back ten.

    Somebody should remind the law professor there are no billable hours here.
    I think you missed this part:
    I do not subscribe to the “consumer model” of legal education. As a consequence, I believe in your entitlement to assert your needs and desires even more strongly than you do. You would be just as entitled to express yourself to us if the law school were entirely tuition free This is because you are a student, not because you are a consumer. Besides, the natural and logical extension of your premise IS that students on a full scholarship are not entitled to assert their needs and desires to the same extent as other students (or maybe even at all). So, as you can see, arguments premised on consumerism are not likely to influence me. On the contrary, such a premise causes me to believe that you have a diminished view of legal education and the source of our responsibility as legal educators. This allows me to take any criticism from such a perspective less seriously than I otherwise would.
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    Enjoyable. Nice to see the professor turn a ignorant incident into a teachable moment.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kallie Knoetze View Post
    Mr. Jeffrey,

    Wow, just like a lawyer. You send out one sentence, a lawyer sends back ten.

    Somebody should remind the law professor there are no billable hours here.
    And making contracts far more complicated to the average person. All in an attempt to trap them in mistakes to the benefit of the originator of the contract.

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