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    Quote Originally Posted by BigLeRoy View Post
    I would say much more than a 'working hypothesis' at this point; I would argue it has attained the status of a theory. There are quite a few paleontologists who will come right out and say that birds ARE dinosaurs!
    The evidence is pretty much overwhelming by now.

    See a hummingbird, and it seems sort of far fetched, but look at a baby blue heron, and you can see dinosaur ancestry:



    and yes, I realize that none of that is really based on appearances, but still. that little blue heron is an interesting subject.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dittohead not! View Post
    The evidence is pretty much overwhelming by now.

    See a hummingbird, and it seems sort of far fetched, but look at a baby blue heron, and you can see dinosaur ancestry:



    and yes, I realize that none of that is really based on appearances, but still. that little blue heron is an interesting subject.
    Imagine that the size of an elephant....
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    Quote Originally Posted by OldGaffer View Post
    Imagine that the size of an elephant....
    Imagine the elephant birds of Madagascar, only recently extinct! There may have even been some surviving elephant birds on Madagascar as recently as the 17th century, when the French started arriving there. Largest bird in the geological record. An adult could stand fully 12 feet tall. And looked like a chick! So imagine the first human colonists of Madagascar----who only arrived there sometime between ~600 BC and 200 AD-----the date is VERY uncertain-----and saw an adult elephant bird coming towards them from out of the forest. They might well have thought it was a young one. They might have wondered if Mama was around. Yikes.


    A single scrambled elephant bird egg would have fed an entire band of some 30-50 hungry human hunter-gatherers, and the elephant bird reproduced slowly, and had no real natural predators on the island.


    It was doomed to extinction from the moment the first human set foot on the island.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elephant_bird
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    Quote Originally Posted by BigLeRoy View Post
    Imagine the elephant birds of Madagascar, only recently extinct! There may have even been some surviving elephant birds on Madagascar as recently as the 17th century, when the French started arriving there. Largest bird in the geological record. An adult could stand fully 12 feet tall. And looked like a chick! So imagine the first human colonists of Madagascar----who only arrived there sometime between ~600 BC and 200 AD-----the date is VERY uncertain-----and saw an adult elephant bird coming towards them from out of the forest. They might well have thought it was a young one. They might have wondered if Mama was around. Yikes.


    A single scrambled elephant bird egg would have fed an entire band of some 30-50 hungry human hunter-gatherers, and the elephant bird reproduced slowly, and had no real natural predators on the island.


    It was doomed to extinction from the moment the first human set foot on the island.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elephant_bird
    Flightless birds have not fared well in conjunction with humanity. New Zealand had five or six different species of flightless birds, all of course, extinct. And who can forget the atrocity of the extinction of the Great Auk...

    On July 3, 1844, fishermen killed the last confirmed pair of great auks at Eldey Island, Iceland. The great auk, was a large flightless bird native to the North Atlantic. It once had a population in the millions. For centuries, the penguin-like birds were popular as meat and bait. Their fat, eggs, and feathers were sold as commercial goods. By the 19th century, overhunting threatened the species.

    Museums and collectors took an avid interest in the great auk as its population declined, but these early conservation efforts actually contributed to the species’ extinction. Museums sought to preserve and display the mounted skins of great auks, not the auks themselves. The fishermen who killed the last breeding pair were working for a businessman who wanted to sell the specimens to collectors.
    https://www.nationalgeographic.org/t...ecome-extinct/
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