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    Spock of Vulcan Ian Jeffrey's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by orangecat View Post
    No one has a right to an attorney if the government isn't the prosecution.
    Yes, I know how that works. The Miranda rights StanStill referred to (his recitation was incomplete) emanate specifically from the 5th Amendment, which is about criminal prosecutions and not civil or administrative cases. There is no such thing as anyone or -thing other than the government being the "prosecution," which terminology only applies to criminal cases. In civil cases, the entity initiating the action is called the "plaintiff." In both cases, the party against whom the action is initiated is called the "defendant." (In some states, for some actions, the plaintiff might also be referred to as the "petitioner.")

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ian Jeffrey View Post
    What kind of comment were you looking for ... ?
    Nothing really... Just popped into my head when I was thinking about rights, and I knew that at least a couple lawyers were following along. I just snipped it off the wikipedia page for Miranda.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ian Jeffrey View Post
    Yes, I know how that works. The Miranda rights StanStill referred to (his recitation was incomplete) emanate specifically from the 5th Amendment, which is about criminal prosecutions and not civil or administrative cases. There is no such thing as anyone or -thing other than the government being the "prosecution," which terminology only applies to criminal cases. In civil cases, the entity initiating the action is called the "plaintiff." In both cases, the party against whom the action is initiated is called the "defendant." (In some states, for some actions, the plaintiff might also be referred to as the "petitioner.")
    My bad, I should've said plaintiff. You obviously get what I'm saying, though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by orangecat View Post
    My bad, I should've said plaintiff. You obviously get what I'm saying, though.
    You do that a lot....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Puzzling Evidence View Post
    You do that a lot....
    I'm not perfect. That would become tedious.

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