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    Quote Originally Posted by meridian5455 View Post
    Yes, they are impractical.
    How so?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bluegrass View Post
    How so?
    It used to be that if you had any college degrees, a lot of companies would consider you. Now, you have to have a specific degree to get a job. You are limiting your career options.

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    Quote Originally Posted by meridian5455 View Post
    It used to be that if you had any college degrees, a lot of companies would consider you. Now, you have to have a specific degree to get a job. You are limiting your career options.
    A lot of speciality degrees in college, let's take engineering, require you to not only take the SAT, but also 2 subject SAT tests; science and math.
    It weeds a lot of people, which is a good thing.

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    A lot of speciality degrees in college, let's take engineering, require you to not only take the SAT, but also 2 subject SAT tests; science and math.
    It weeds a lot of people, which is a good thing.
    Agreed. I wouldn't want an "Art History" major to design a bridge. It might look stylish, but probably would fall down fairly quickly.

    If someone wants to have degrees like that, fine. But don't complain when you can't find work and end up as a barrista at Starbucks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by meridian5455 View Post
    It used to be that if you had any college degrees, a lot of companies would consider you. Now, you have to have a specific degree to get a job. You are limiting your career options.
    That's the mindset of diploma mills and corporate online "colleges" like University of Phoenix. A true education is not meant to be "practical", rather it's an environment where one learns how to think critically, creatively problem solve and effectively communicate through writing and other means. As well, many pursue a Master's.

    Being a cog in the wheel of industry isn't a good reason to be educated.

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    Quote Originally Posted by meridian5455 View Post
    Agreed. I wouldn't want an "Art History" major to design a bridge. It might look stylish, but probably would fall down fairly quickly.
    That's ridiculous. Architecture students routinely study art and architectural history as a major component of their education.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bluegrass View Post
    That's the mindset of diploma mills and corporate online "colleges" like University of Phoenix. A true education is not meant to be "practical", rather it's an environment where one learns how to think critically, creatively problem solve and effectively communicate through writing and other means. As well, many pursue a Master's.

    Being a cog in the wheel of industry isn't a good reason to be educated.
    I have never been a cog, but there are people who are better as "worker bees". Not everyone can be a leader.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bluegrass View Post
    That's ridiculous. Architecture students routinely study art and architectural history as a major component of their education.
    Doesn't mean that they could design a bridge.

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    Quote Originally Posted by meridian5455 View Post
    We bailed out the banks and the auto manufacturers, right? In theory, they are paying us back for these "loans". How will we be paid back for bailing out individuals?
    I think it's the wrong answer -- bailouts won't fix anything. In fact, getting the loans paid would likely result in people being less likely to be careful about taking out loans or choosing majors. Most people don't treat college like education mostly it's a 4-year rumspringa in which they occasionally attend class. How does making college cheaper and easier to get change that stuff? It won't. Until college goes back to being something that's a great privledge and responsibility, we'll get more of the same.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mordent View Post
    The education loan bubble is the next to burst. Once again, it was caused by government meddling in the loan qualification process, acquiring short term political gains at the expense of long term financial stability.

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