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    Quote Originally Posted by THOR View Post
    Just two women going at it. Hillary and hard on are oxymoron's.
    Shut your fucking mouth
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    Voter turn out is roughly seventy seven %.

    As it should be in any healthy democracy.
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    French Parties Unify Against Le Pen: ?This Is Deadly Serious Now?
    Not since World War II has the anti-immigrant far right been closer to gaining power in France. With her second-place finish on Sunday in the first round of the presidential election, Marine Le Pen has dragged her National Front party from the dark fringes of its first 40 years.

    But that remarkable accomplishment is so alarming to so many in France that as soon as the preliminary results were announced at 8:01 p.m., virtually all of her major opponents in the 11-person race called for her defeat in the second-round runoff on May 7. They implored their supporters to vote for the candidate projected to come out on top on Sunday, the centrist, pro-European Union former economy minister Emmanuel Macron, a political novice and outsider.

    The first-round showing by Mr. Macron and Ms. Le Pen represented an earthquake, as they effectively broke the French political establishment. On the right and the left, the two parties that have governed France for more than 50 years suffered a severe defeat. They have been pushed aside in a wave of popular anger over the country’s stagnant economy and shaky security.

    The rapid-fire endorsements of Mr. Macron, coming from across the political spectrum, represented a dynamic that has always prevailed in France when the National Front approaches executive power — the cross-party, anti-far right alliance the French call the “Republican Front.” The question now is whether that front can hold this time, as well.
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    It is obvious that Macron is going to be elected as president with probably more than 60% of the votes. The real challenge is the "Chambre des députés" which is like the House of représentatives. Macron will probably have no majority with the few lawmen he can hope to be elected from his own party. So he will have to build a majority with other political parties.

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    Quote Originally Posted by John T Ford View Post
    France could face its own 'Frexit' in the future after far-right leader Marine Le Pen and independent centrist Emmanuel Macron beat the two main parties to go head to head in the upcoming presidential elections.

    With 30 million votes tallied so far, France's Interior Ministry says currently Le Pen is leading with 23.4 per cent of the vote followed by Macron with 22.8 per cent. Initial polls shows Macron was in the lead.


    Marine Le Pen Emmanuel Macron go head to head in election | Daily Mail Online

    Will we see a Frexit?

    Historic defeat for establishment.

    Sound familiar?
    You are not familiar with the French electoral system..... And it is Macron who is ahead and will probably as far what the polls say winner with 60% of the votes in May.......... And the polls were right until now....... You need to adjust to a reality which is different, even if the electoral fight is now between 2 outsiders and the traditional candidates failed....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zephyr View Post
    The Left have a history of disregarding and tossing aside referendums approved by a majority of voters. They are not very democratic are they?
    The E.U. will claim the Russians hacked them resulting in the votes to Brexit.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PACE View Post
    On a referendum, wait until June to see how brexit plays out, it might be a surprise for all you "scorched earth" types.
    I know leftist do not support the will of the voting people.

    In fact I would go so far to say the left despises the free will of the people, as you have so graciously pointed out.

    But, something tells me, in the end, these extremist are going to have to honor Brexit, or else.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BlueDozer View Post
    The referendum on Brexit was a non-binding referendum. This means that the government isn't obligated to carry out the results of the referendum.

    The country as a whole voted one way, but if you break it down by region, Scotland, Northern Ireland, and London voted to remain in the EU. This creates an issue when maintaining the union. Scotland has already called a new referendum on independence to be held next year over the issue, and unionist forces in Northern Ireland got trounced in the last election.

    This means that the reactions to the vote are still very nuanced, and that minds could be changing quickly. Anecdotally, the mother of a friend of mine (who is a British citizen) voted to Leave, but later regretted the vote remarking that she didn't think the 'Leave' vote would pass. She just wanted to voice a negative opinion to Parliament.

    If Pro-EU forces can manage to cobble together a coalition for June, and oust the Tories from power, I would hope they revisit the idea of leaving at all.
    It must suck living under a totalitarian government.

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    Quote Originally Posted by galatin View Post
    You are not familiar with the French electoral system..... And it is Macron who is ahead and will probably as far what the polls say winner with 60% of the votes in May.......... And the polls were right until now....... You need to adjust to a reality which is different, even if the electoral fight is now between 2 outsiders and the traditional candidates failed....
    I have already stated I am not familiar with the French electoral system and I don't care what the polls say.

    If French polls are anything like American polls they are only propaganda anyway.

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    Quote Originally Posted by John T Ford View Post
    I have already stated I am not familiar with the French electoral system and I don't care what the polls say.

    If French polls are anything like American polls they are only propaganda anyway.
    just remember - there is no electoral college in French elections. it's majority vote by the citizens that wins.
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