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    An overview of some of the main aspects of the Nordic model. Honestly, it's the best method to achieve the highest potential that capitalism can have for the largest number of people.

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    1. An elaborate social safety net in addition to public services such as free education and universal healthcare.

    2. Strong property rights, contract enforcement, and overall ease of doing business.

    3. Public pension plans.

    4. Low barriers to free trade. This is combined with collective risk sharing (social programs, labour market institutions) which has provided a form of protection against the risks associated with economic openness.

    5. Little product market regulation. Nordic countries rank very high in product market freedom according to OECD rankings.

    6. Low levels of corruption.

    7. A partnership between employers, trade unions and the government, whereby these social partners negotiate the terms to regulating the workplace among themselves, rather than the terms being imposed by law.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BlueDozer View Post
    An overview of some of the main aspects of the Nordic model. Honestly, it's the best method to achieve the highest potential that capitalism can have for the largest number of people.

    From the wiki.
    you do understand the American right would completely oppose such a model based on high tax rates for all.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BlueDozer View Post
    Macron is sorta populist-lite. He calls his movement a progressive transpolitical force to bring unity to France.

    I like his plans to move France to a more Nordic economic model, and his support for the EU and for internationalism are huge upsides.

    It's really going to be an election between whether France will commit itself to internationalism, openness, and progressivism, or recede back into itself with nationalism, nativism, and isolationism.
    Macron is part of the establishment and the elite. The only difference with other politicians is the fact that he never was elected as a member of an assembly. He is very close to Hollande anyway who was kind of a mentor for him and I do not see Populism in what he is is trying to do. It is more a way to revive the center to build a different majority with elements of the older one and some other parties. The political system based on rule by a one party majority is worn out and Macron sees himself as being able to renew it.

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    What's funny is, if you look at Le Pen's other domestic policies.....health, education, etc.?


    It would be stuff that John T Ford would call "Marxism."



    But because she panders to people who hate brown people....he loves her.
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    Quote Originally Posted by GordonGecko View Post
    What's funny is, if you look at Le Pen's other domestic policies.....health, education, etc.?


    It would be stuff that John T Ford would call "Marxism."



    But because she panders to people who hate brown people....he loves her.
    the term "conservative" as used in America is radically different than the same term used in Europe.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bonehead View Post
    you do understand the American right would completely oppose such a model based on high tax rates for all.
    The American Right opposes pretty much everything that would be beneficial to our country. That doesn't take away from the fact that the Nordic model is probably the best way to organize capitalism.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BlueDozer View Post
    The American Right opposes pretty much everything that would be beneficial to our country. That doesn't take away from the fact that the Nordic model is probably the best way to organize capitalism.
    dunno. they are so obsessed with not paying for things (which they will benefit from) for those which cannot pay for them, they've lost their perspective. that, coupled with their abject fear of government in general, is why they oppose most all benefits.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bonehead View Post
    you do understand the American right would completely oppose such a model based on high tax rates for all.
    Yeah, a lot of the American left would completely oppose such a model, too.

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    Le Pen is stepping down as party leader!

    Temporarily, of course, she owns it. Almost Trump-like, the millionare who never held down a proper job sells herself as the anti-estblishment woman of the people!

    Marine Le Pen steps down as leader of National Front party two weeks before French Presidential election - Mirror Online
    Last edited by Dangermouse; 24th April 2017 at 11:14 AM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Miller47 View Post
    Yeah, a lot of the American left would completely oppose such a model, too.
    and why would that be?

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