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    The LibDems do have a lot of sensible policies but it doesn't help that they're being led by Tim Farron who sometimes resembles Wallace from the Wallace and Gromit cartoons.
    The picture in the OP particularly accentuates the resemblance.

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    Quote Originally Posted by excalibur View Post
    Ah, Progressives, lose a vote, keep voting until they get what they want, then all debate is ended.
    LOL, Like 61 attempts to repeal Obamacare? 40 years of trying to ban abortion?

    God damn you trolls don't even try anymore.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dr Sampson Simpson View Post
    LOL, Like 61 attempts to repeal Obamacare? 40 years of trying to ban abortion?

    God damn you trolls don't even try anymore.
    Their hypocrisy is earth shattering.

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    I hope the UK people do not fall in that trap. They voted, a decision was already made.

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    I hope the UK people do not fall in that trap. They voted, a decision was already made.
    They voted for Brexit, but not on what kind of Brexit. On top of that, a large swath of the Leave crowd have second-guessed their vote. Considering how close it was, this throws the efficacy of Brexit into doubt.

    If the Lib Dems were returned to Parliament with a substantial increase of seats, the message sent would be that at most, the people only want a Soft Brexit.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BlueDozer View Post
    They voted for Brexit, but not on what kind of Brexit. On top of that, a large swath of the Leave crowd have second-guessed their vote. Considering how close it was, this throws the efficacy of Brexit into doubt.

    If the Lib Dems were returned to Parliament with a substantial increase of seats, the message sent would be that at most, the people only want a Soft Brexit.
    According to the UKpolling report the general trend the polls seem to be showing, to me at least, is a start of a sharp fall for Cons and an uptick for Labour. I read in The Guardian that students and young people are flocking to register for the vote with at least 55% polled saying that they intend to vote Labour.

    LibDems are not going to do well with that demographic, most importantly for reneging on their promise not to increase student fees when they entered into coalition government.

    I think that Tim Farron has chosen a poor strategy. He is all out for the Yes vote in the referendum and he is not going to get it. The majority of Yes voters were 18-24 and 25-34 year old demographic groups and they are not well disposed towards the LibDems. In my honest opinion I think the LibDems will lose seats in this election even though they've been brought down to only 9 in 2015 (with by-elections last year), from I think around 50 that they've won in 2010.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BlueDozer View Post
    Well, the Lib Dems are convinced that a lot of people have changed their mind about Brexit since the vote, enough to reverse the decision, considering the threat of the UK breaking apart, and of what leaving the single market would entail for British consumers and businesses.

    I don't know if it'll be a sea change to more direct democracy, though.
    Well... Scotland and N Ireland are NOT happy about Brexit. Both are seriously looking at Leave the UK and re-join the EU.

    MAYBE getting manipulated by Putin, Right geeks.... is not good?

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    Well... Scotland and N Ireland are NOT happy about Brexit. Both are seriously looking at Leave the UK and re-join the EU.

    MAYBE getting manipulated by Putin, Right geeks.... is not good?
    And that's the final death knell for the UK. They lost their empire, and now Brexit could dissolve their 300 year experiment in unification.

    All they'll have left is England and Wales...AND...on top of that, even Greater London is not happy about this. If Scotland and N. Ireland succeed in leaving, I wonder how energized the people of London will be in wanting to go with them.

    I think it has a lot to do with the deepening divide between urban and rural that we're seeing all throughout the West.

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