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    Quote Originally Posted by CEngelbrecht View Post
    (I still don't understand the Yank use of 'liberal'...)

    He wants the weak leader. And he sure as hell wants to get rid of female leaders. 'Cause those he can't manipulate and break, that little KGB prick. Merkel is next on his list.
    But May is the conservative. Why would he want a PM who is (the opposite of conservative)?

    Do you think Putin has interfered in the UK elections?

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    Why can't the UK reverse on Brexit?
    There was always something awkward between UK and the EU. The English people are defiant from the start and wanted mainly not to be excluded form the big market. So they developped a lot of tactics to weaken the Union and attacked the bureaucracy of the EU considered as a monster, when it was probably much cheaper as far cost are concerned than than most of the national bureaucracies. And it gave the BREXIT campaign full of clichés and lies, when globally the EU brought a lot to all member countries. So, it is difficult for the Engish to just cancel the BREXIT after all of that. Europe from a political project became in England an interior problem on which crystalized most of the problems of the UK, which is orphran of its glorious past. It leads to a problem of identity, because at the difference ot people on the Continent, English people never were able to identify themselves to Europe and felt being apart from it. That at the difference of the Irish who identify themselves to Europe against the English and accept the fact thatEuzrope helped them a lot....
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    May has proved herself weak. She's had an appalling campaign, and might even lose seats, if not the election. Corbyn, after a year of vilification and lies from the largely conservative press, has proven an able campaigner, warm, open, and engaged, which May hasn't. Polls are all over the place. If May doesn't increase the majority, then she's gone. Her party are ruthless. The Lib Dems are the only party committed to undoing brexit, but they're not even third party in terms of seats, so that at least, looks inevitable.
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    Quote Originally Posted by galatin View Post
    There was always something awkward between UK and the EU. The English people are defiant from the start and wanted mainly not to be excluded form the big market. So they developped a lot of tactics to weaken the Union and attacked the bureaucracy of the EU considered as a monster, when it was probably much cheaper as far cost are concerned than than most of the national bureaucracies. And it gave the BREXIT campaign full of clichés and lies, when globally the EU brought a lot to all member countries. So, it is difficult for the Engish to just cancel the BREXIT after all of that. Europe from a political project became in England an interior problem on which crystalized most of the problems of the UK, which is orphran of its glorious past. It leads to a problem of identity, because at the difference ot people on the Continent, English people never were able to identify themselves to Europe and felt being apart from it. That at the difference of the Irish who identify themselves to Europe against the English and accept the fact thatEuzrope helped them a lot....
    I recall the viciously slanted campaign ads.....


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    Quote Originally Posted by Madeline View Post
    But May is the conservative. Why would he want a PM who is (the opposite of conservative)?
    Because he fears female leaders. He can't manipulate them with his KGB Woodchucks' Guide. Forget the old ideologies, Putin has no affiliation.

    Quote Originally Posted by Madeline View Post
    Do you think Putin has interfered in the UK elections?
    You bet your arse, he has. He rigged Brexit too, of course he did. On top of Potus, on top of Bulgaria, and a host of other elections throughout Europa. Welcome to the age of zeros and ones. He tried to rig France as well just now (why do you think the attacks were in France untill they suddenly moved to election Britain?). He wants the dominant position of the Kremlin back to pre 1989 and will use any means necessary. Last year he tried to assassinate the Western friendly PM of Montenegro, all that on top of annexing Crimea.

    But in the corridors they are ready for all that now. They all know what's going on, they just can't tell the rest of you, 'cause that's aparently against the bloody rules.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Madeline View Post
    I recall the viciously slanted campaign ads.....

    When in fifty years from now, historians summarize #FakeNews, this will be their very first image of it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by galatin View Post
    There was always something awkward between UK and the EU. The English people are defiant from the start and wanted mainly not to be excluded from the big market. So they developed a lot of tactics to weaken the Union and attacked the bureaucracy of the EU considered as a monster, when it was probably much cheaper as far as cost are concerned than most of the national bureaucracies. And it gave the BREXIT campaign full of clichés and lies, when globally the EU brought a lot to all member countries. So, it is difficult for the English to just cancel the BREXIT after all of that. Europe from a political project became in England an interior problem on which crystalized most of the problems of the UK, which is orphan of its glorious past. It leads to a problem of identity, because at the difference of people on the Continent, English people never were able to identify themselves to Europe and felt being apart from it. That at the difference of the Irish who identify themselves to Europe against the English and accept the fact thatEuzrope helped them a lot....
    All the member countries are awkward towards the EU project. No one is ready for a United States of Europe (not the Germans either, no). They all have their unique national identities they don't want to let go of.

    Britain's main issue with the EU is that... Britain is no longer the global power it was in the 19th. Russia is no longer the global power it was in the 20th either, and the irritating thing is they both react along similar lines, they're like in the five steps of grief. Really strange is, that Britain's best chance of becoming a global power again, if that's really so bloody important, is as part of the EU project.
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    It's all on the youngsters. Will they turn out in numbers to vote for a future?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dangermouse View Post
    It's all on the youngsters. Will they turn out in numbers to vote for a future?

    Lol, that could be so - this the first general election in which I'm eligible to vote, and I don't mind saying old 'vinegar-tits' is not getting my vote. From what I have read, the last female conservative PM we had was an unmitigated disaster, and I'm not sure this one is turning out any better. So Labour gets my vote - even though I know very little about Corbyn, but we vote for parties, not personalities, in our system.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Leo2 View Post
    Lol, that could be so - this the first general election in which I'm eligible to vote, and I don't mind saying old 'vinegar-tits' is not getting my vote. From what I have read, the last female conservative PM we had was an unmitigated disaster, and I'm not sure this one is turning out any better. So Labour gets my vote - even though I know very little about Corbyn, but we vote for parties, not personalities, in our system.
    And Putin is using that against you.

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