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    Quote Originally Posted by Paris View Post
    We certainly can do without Trump.
    Your lot voted in another neoliberal. And you whine about Trump?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ăthelfrith View Post
    Your lot voted in another neoliberal. And you whine about Trump?
    We chose not to elect a populist like Trump, but that doesn't mean we are happy with Macron as shown by the way we go on strike and protest.

    Speaking of which. How are the English reacting to the Tories gutting their welfare system?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Paris View Post
    We chose not to elect a populist like Trump, but that doesn't mean we are happy with Macron as shown by the way we go on strike and protest.

    Speaking of which. How are the English reacting to the Tories gutting their welfare system?
    You voted in a neoliberal and assumed it was novel. Crikey, isn't that a little feckwitted?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ăthelfrith View Post
    You voted in a neoliberal and assumed it was novel. Crikey, isn't that a little feckwitted?
    You are assuming that we assumed. That's feckwitted indeed.

    So you have nothing to say about the English? What a pitty.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Paris View Post
    You are assuming that we assumed. That's feckwitted indeed.

    So you have nothing to say about the English? What a pitty.
    You voted in a neoliberal and thought you were doing something novel. Is there anything more feckwitted?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dangermouse View Post
    So oldfashioned! This is the current anthem. It refers to the Scots' defeat of Edward II's army at Bannockburn in 1314. Written in 1967. Who said we have long memories?

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RPaJhlIIYjM[/video]

    I love the song "SCOTLAND THE BRAVE" - specially this version of John McDermott. It swings. This song here is more a kind of sleeping pill. But good that you remembered me to the year 1314. People from Switzerland had attacked the monastery Einsiedeln this year. In January. Strange. And we crowned two German emperors this year because of problems in the election process. The cause: The Pope had died and a new Pope was still not enthroned. Sometimes things go wrong and no one knows why before it happens.

    Here my national anthem:

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    Quote Originally Posted by zaangalewa View Post
    We are a member of the EU - we are not the EU. The EU is first of all a peace project for Germany. A very successful peace project.



    Your politicians made always responsible the EU for all bullshit they were doing on their own. I don't think French champagne will start to solve now the problems of the gigantic empire of England, Wales, Northern Ireland and ┐still? Scotland.


    If it remained a common market with a commission then there wouldn't be a problem. But an unelected parliament? And the likes of Adolf Merkel. Germany is more than welcome to up their tax and pay for the short fall in contributions. The sooner the UK get away from you goons, the better.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Slartibartfast View Post
    If it remained a common market with a commission then there wouldn't be a problem.
    The commission per se is a problem. We need much more democracy within the EU. That's what all citizens of all nations everywhere in Europe hate: lack of democracy. But what kind of politics made England in context with the EU? Thatcherism, Neoliberalism. "You" are the problem which "you" like to avoid. "You" = the older English population, not the young Brits - and not the Brits who live outside of GB and had no right to vote - and not the people from lots of nations of Europe, who live in England, and had also not the right to vote, although this are the people who make England to an interesting place of the world.

    But an unelected parliament?
    The European parliament is elected. It is without a big importance and influence because for example also of the politics of - ┐who is astonished? - Great Britain! Democracy is a wonderful thing - for Brits, but not for others, as the Brits seem to think. Instead to help to build up a better working democracy your own nation fought against more democracy in Europe, what's by the way an old tradition of the English empire too.

    And the likes of Adolf Merkel.
    Every idiot worldwide has nothing else to do than to draw under the nose of a picture of a German the beard of the Brit Mr. Charles Chaplin (Sorry Charly), specially if a German says something no one likes to hear.

    Germany is more than welcome to up their tax and pay for the short fall in contributions. The sooner the UK get away from you goons, the better.
    You got away. "You" should finally start to take serious the own decisions. The EU has to find the own way without GB now. The open questions now have only to do with the relation of the EU with GB. Somehow a paradox that GB left the European Union because it lives in fear of democracy within the European Union.



    Natur ist glŘcklich. Doch in uns begegnen
    sich zuviel Krńfte, die sich wirr bestreiten:
    wer hat ein FrŘhjahr innen zu bereiten?
    Wer wei▀ zu scheinen? Wer vermag zu regnen?

    Wem geht ein Wind durchs Herz, unwidersprechlich?
    Wer fa▀t in sich der VogelflŘge Raum?
    Wer ist zugleich so biegsam und gebrechlich
    wie jeder Zweig an einem jeden Baum?

    Wer stŘrzt wie Wasser Řber seine Neigung
    ins unbekannte GlŘck so rein, so reg?
    Und wer nimmt still und ohne Stolz die Steigung
    und hńlt sich oben wie ein Wiesenweg?


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    Quote Originally Posted by BigLeRoy View Post
    The English Channel is what separates civilization from barbarism.

    I hear that's a popular joke in Merrie Olde England.
    No, it's the Severn you're thinking of.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Iolo View Post
    No, it's the Severn you're thinking of.
    Or the Tweed!
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