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    Quote Originally Posted by Madeline View Post
    So you find their articles are factually correct?

    This is such an alien side of life for me. I am utterly technologically stupid.

    Thanks for the recommendation!
    Video evidence.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Madeline View Post
    O, I think the lightbulbs over their heads are starting to go off. I myself have hero-worshipped a candidate and worked my ass off to get him elected, only to have him behave like a creep once he was sworn in. (Local or state races, not national.)

    It can be a very painful experience. Feels like a personal betrayal.
    Being able to tell BS from the truth is very important and if you can't you get this result. Hate to tell you, this wasn't the last time you were duped. You have been duped over and over again for 35 years or so. HUTA on display, sad, so sad.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dr.Knuckles View Post
    He REALLY will appear in anything, won't he.

    "Morgan. We've got this script abou..."

    "I'm in"
    Actually Morgan Freeman has been politically active for at least a decade. And he does seem to be well-informed.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eve1 View Post
    By the very nature of their work you wouldn't know fuck all what they knew or didn't know. If you did they wouldn't be doing their job properly. You are pissing all over people that basically put their lives on the line every day
    for not much dough in the grand scheme of things. They get ZERO graditude because in some cases not even their families know what they really do. You are really a piece of work Madeline, you are not only an ungrateful American but you are too fucking secure in her own little cacoon to know of what you speak.

    PS the CIA doesn't get involve in domestic affairs at home so what the fuck are you talking about American civil liberaties. At least get your fucking facts straight when you decide to piss on an agency.
    New thread, new thread.

    Gnu thread, Madam.

    BTW, no, of course CIA failures are not due to bad CIA field agents. It's management, always.

    Nobody working at the CIA headquarters in Virginia is "risking his or her life" for me, unless maybe because their commute to work is too hard.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eve1 View Post
    Being able to tell BS from the truth is very important and if you can't you get this result. Hate to tell you, this wasn't the last time you were duped. You have been duped over and over again for 35 years or so. HUTA on display, sad, so sad.

    What is "HUTA"?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Madeline View Post
    Who knows? I have zero confidence in the CIA. I don't think those boys and girls could find a fuck in a whorehouse. The U.S. intelligence community overall is as useless as an ashtray on a motorcycle, unless you count tossing money out the window a barometer of success.

    Does the U.S. government have the skills to make a cyberwar offensive, IYO?
    I'm unsure about the CIA; however, the IMF performed well in Russia's '96 presidential election:

    https://www.globalresearch.ca/us-med...eltsin/5568288

    "Readers will recall that in the run-up to the 1996 presidential election in Russia, opinion polls put the pro-western incumbent, Boris Yeltsin, in fifth place among the presidential candidates, with only 8% support. The same polls showed that the most popular candidate in Russia by a wide margin was the Communist Party’s Gennady Zyuganov..."

    "In February 1996, at the urging of the United States, the International Monetary Fund (which describes itself as 'an organization of 188 countries, working to foster global monetary cooperation') supplied a $10.2 billion 'emergency infusion” to Russia.The money disappeared as Yeltsin used it to shore up his reputation and to buy votes.

    "He forced the Central Bank of Russia to provide an additional $1 billion for his campaign, too.

    "Meanwhile, a handful of Russian oligarchs, notably several big contributors residing in Israel, provided more billions for the Yeltsin campaign."

    Yeltsin came back from the dead (politically speaking) and won an election he would not have won absent US meddling.

    I suspect the tit for tat has gone on for the last 21 years regardless which party controls the Kremlin or the White House?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Madeline View Post
    New thread, new thread.

    Gnu thread, Madam.

    BTW, no, of course CIA failures are not due to bad CIA field agents. It's management, always.

    Nobody working at the CIA headquarters in Virginia is "risking his or her life" for me, unless maybe because their commute to work is too hard.
    Maybe you should educate yourself a little more about the people and agencies you disparage.

    https://www.ciaagentedu.org/training...ping-lady.html

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    Quote Originally Posted by georgephillip View Post
    I'm unsure about the CIA; however, the IMF performed well in Russia's '96 presidential election:

    https://www.globalresearch.ca/us-med...eltsin/5568288

    "Readers will recall that in the run-up to the 1996 presidential election in Russia, opinion polls put the pro-western incumbent, Boris Yeltsin, in fifth place among the presidential candidates, with only 8% support. The same polls showed that the most popular candidate in Russia by a wide margin was the Communist Party’s Gennady Zyuganov..."

    "In February 1996, at the urging of the United States, the International Monetary Fund (which describes itself as 'an organization of 188 countries, working to foster global monetary cooperation') supplied a $10.2 billion 'emergency infusion” to Russia.The money disappeared as Yeltsin used it to shore up his reputation and to buy votes.

    "He forced the Central Bank of Russia to provide an additional $1 billion for his campaign, too.

    "Meanwhile, a handful of Russian oligarchs, notably several big contributors residing in Israel, provided more billions for the Yeltsin campaign."

    Yeltsin came back from the dead (politically speaking) and won an election he would not have won absent US meddling.

    I suspect the tit for tat has gone on for the last 21 years regardless which party controls the Kremlin or the White House?
    Well now.

    That is some horrible shit. I never knew any of that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eve1 View Post
    Maybe you should educate yourself a little more about the people and agencies you disparage.

    https://www.ciaagentedu.org/training...ping-lady.html
    You assume I am not well-educated on CIA, NSA, Homeland fuck ups.

    Or that I don't value the courage of field operatives.

    I think you are mistaken about that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Madeline View Post




    Russia: America using actor Morgan Freeman to push anti-Moscow message | TheHill

    I honestly did not think WW III would be announced by a Hollywood actor, even one as beloved as Morgan Freeman.

    Are Russia's known acts in the 2016 election "an act of war" IYO? And if so, is Trump in a position to cope, given that he is under investigation for colluding with Putin?

    Your thoughts?
    Attempting to destabilize someone else's governmental system is an act of war, yes. The way to fight back is to be more discerning. Not sure that's what American elites want generally, though. If we're wise about political communication, will be continue to be credulous about other kinds of PR? Doubt it.

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