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    Quote Originally Posted by NiteGuy View Post
    I might be persuaded to go along with this, as long as a physician examines the woman first, and determines that there are no contravening health issues to doing so. High blood pressure, or whatever. After that, with a note for the first purchase, I see no harm in having a woman being able to purchase BC over the counter from that point on.

    For example, I have a couple of medications available over the counter through my pharmacist that don't strictly require a prescription, but they are noted in my pharmaceutical records. All I have to do is ask for them, and they are usually a lot cheaper that way, than in purchasing them in the "supplements" aisle.
    Problem with that is teens. I know so many parents who refuse to allow their daughters to use birth control. Several ended up pregnant. At least having this choice OTC, they would be able to purchase the pill without permission from their parents and use it for prevention. The morning after pill has no age restrictions but it shouldn't be used all the time as birth control.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bajisima View Post
    Problem with that is teens. I know so many parents who refuse to allow their daughters to use birth control. Several ended up pregnant. At least having this choice OTC, they would be able to purchase the pill without permission from their parents and use it for prevention. The morning after pill has no age restrictions but it shouldn't be used all the time as birth control.
    Wait, what's the problem again?

    Girl is taken to the doctor at some point, and asks doctor to place a note in her pharmaceutical file that goes to her closest pharmacy. Mom and Dad need never know. And the girl can purchase a pack whenever she needs to, without the need to have someone call in a prescription.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NiteGuy View Post
    Wait, what's the problem again?

    Girl is taken to the doctor at some point, and asks doctor to place a note in her pharmaceutical file that goes to her closest pharmacy. Mom and Dad need never know. And the girl can purchase a pack whenever she needs to, without the need to have someone call in a prescription.
    First, yes they do know as they are on mom and dads insurance and they get the notifications from the insurance company as to who was seen and for what. Secondly, minors cant pick up prescriptions so mom or dad will know what it is.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MGunner View Post
    And the hits against the family just keep on coming... Next up? Public boarding schools... Can't have those pesky parents deciding how to educate junior...
    How the hell is this a hit against the family?!
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    Quote Originally Posted by bajisima View Post
    First, yes they do know as they are on mom and dads insurance and they get the notifications from the insurance company as to who was seen and for what. Secondly, minors cant pick up prescriptions so mom or dad will know what it is.
    While I agree that teen aged girls should have greater access to BC, I'm not sure this a way to do it. Because it really is just a way for the pill not to be funded. A lot of lower income women won't be able to afford it if becomes available OTC because it won't be covered by insurance.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MGunner View Post
    And the hits against the family just keep on coming... Next up? Public boarding schools... Can't have those pesky parents deciding how to educate junior...
    To insinuate this is a hit against the family is fucking stupid. congratulations.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Babba View Post
    While I agree that teen aged girls should have greater access to BC, I'm not sure this a way to do it. Because it really is just a way for the pill not to be funded. A lot of lower income women won't be able to afford it if becomes available OTC because it won't be covered by insurance.
    I don't see why it couldn't be both? Many other countries already offer it over the counter and we are lagging. Also from what I understand, even Planned Parenthood now mandates that young women provide insurance info as its now required so its chasing young girls away since their parents then find out. I know when I was a teen, one could go there and pay cash and get an exam and BC. I have had several of my kids friends say now they no longer do and they wont go because its embarrassing for them and they don't want parents to know. Its funny it used to be everyone wanted it OTC and now its somehow become partisan?

    "In November 2012 the American College of Obstetricians and Gynecologists endorsed making the pill available without a prescription. Only this year, however, has the proposal become a hot political issue."



    An over-the-counter birth control fight - BBC News
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    Quote Originally Posted by NiteGuy View Post
    I might be persuaded to go along with this, as long as a physician examines the woman first, and determines that there are no contravening health issues to doing so. High blood pressure, or whatever. After that, with a note for the first purchase, I see no harm in having a woman being able to purchase BC over the counter from that point on.

    For example, I have a couple of medications available over the counter through my pharmacist that don't strictly require a prescription, but they are noted in my pharmaceutical records. All I have to do is ask for them, and they are usually a lot cheaper that way, than in purchasing them in the "supplements" aisle.
    I tend to agree. Some BC pills are not for everyone and the teenager is not the one who should be making that decision as to which one to use. However, a simple consultation with a doctor should be enough to get that information without a parents knowledge (in the event you have a parent like S Dad).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pragmatist View Post
    I tend to agree. Some BC pills are not for everyone and the teenager is not the one who should be making that decision as to which one to use. However, a simple consultation with a doctor should be enough to get that information without a parents knowledge (in the event you have a parent like S Dad).

    That's a huge issue. A lot of parents (even ones ok with BC) don't want their own to use it or want them to wait. Few parents are as open minded as they think when their 15 year old daughter tells them she is going to be sexually active. This at least helps that. Also, another thing for any woman since the Hobby Lobby case, it allows them to get BC without their employer knowing and since there are many other employers now wanting the same right as Hobby Lobby it also avoids that debacle.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bajisima View Post
    I don't see why it couldn't be both? Many other countries already offer it over the counter and we are lagging. Also from what I understand, even Planned Parenthood now mandates that young women provide insurance info as its now required so its chasing young girls away since their parents then find out. I know when I was a teen, one could go there and pay cash and get an exam and BC. I have had several of my kids friends say now they no longer do and they wont go because its embarrassing for them and they don't want parents to know. Its funny it used to be everyone wanted it OTC and now its somehow become partisan?

    "In November 2012 the American College of Obstetricians and Gynecologists endorsed making the pill available without a prescription. Only this year, however, has the proposal become a hot political issue."



    An over-the-counter birth control fight - BBC News
    As long as lower income females can get help paying for it, I'm fine with it.
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