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    Quote Originally Posted by Humorme View Post
    Here is the real irony:

    33,000 people die from firearms in the U.S. each year (this includes police actions, suicides, homicides, accidental shootings, etc.)

    50,000 people die due to drugs and we think if we legalize drugs, fewer people will die. If we criminalize guns, won't more people die from firearm deaths just like with illegal drugs?
    No one wants to legalize heroin.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dragonfly5 View Post
    No one wants to legalize heroin.
    There are people - not many, I think - who want all drugs legalized.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DebateDrone View Post
    America has a even worse than normal bad opiod problem.



    As Drug Overdose Deaths Escalate, Opioids Continue to Be the Top Killer - ABC News


    Its not the junkie shooting up in the back alley...It's the soccer mom and her teenaged son...
    I understand addiction from pain. I get these horrendous back spasms and they last about 24 hours and they come about once every 45 seconds. I discovered hydrocodone and I literally take three and they will disappear. Luckily I get the spasms maybe once every few months. so obviously there is no chance for addiction. But if I have them all the time I would be addicted

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    Quote Originally Posted by Djinn View Post
    More recently, it's due to drugs being cut with Fentanyl. It greatly reduces the window for overdose treatment.
    Why in the hell FENTANYL?? Isn't this the stuff that killed Prince and was in Jackson's system?? Not sure??

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    Quote Originally Posted by cpicturetaker12 View Post
    Why in the hell FENTANYL?? Isn't this the stuff that killed Prince and was in Jackson's system?? Not sure??
    Why Are Dealers Cutting Fentanyl into Recreational Drugs?

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    Quote Originally Posted by bajisima View Post
    Went to 4 funerals in the last year of those we knew that died of overdoses. Horrific thing. Every single one of them got addicted through an injury where they were prescribed opioids and then the went into prescriptions and then over to heroin. Our doctors are to blame in my opinion. The saddest thing was one of the deaths was because a 16 year old girl was given an enormous prescription for painkillers when she had her wisdom teeth out. She took them all and couldn't stop. Led to harder and harder things. No reason for that doctor to have given a prescription like that. When I had my wisdom teeth out decades ago, the doctor told me to take OTC painkillers (Tylenol) and said it will get better with time.
    I have a low threshold for going out! A 5 mg. Valium would put me to sleep for hours. I had a tooth pulled 2 years ago, it had deep root structure or something. The dentist gave me "hydrocodone". As far as I know I had never taken it before. Felt like someone had pulled my jaw out of alignment. Couldn't open my mouth for 2 days. Took a half of the hydrocodone. Went down for the count for 4 or 5 hours.

    Couldn't sleep one night about a year later, thought well I'll take one--still left from the dental work. Horrible dreams!

    Won't do that again!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dittohead not! View Post
    And guns

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dragonfly5 View Post
    No one wants to legalize heroin.
    wrong again I see

    http://www.urban75.com/Drugs/drugten.html

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ian Jeffrey View Post
    The irony is that it is difficult for me to get hydrocodone or oxycodon for back pain, when it flares up. There does not seem to be a standard protocol for issuing pain meds.
    I have a very bad back and neck from years of abusing my body with drunken brawls, demanding sports, dangerous hard work, etc. I see a pain specialist who gives me random pee tests to see if I'm actually taking these meds and not selling them. Where do you live that these medicines are not being prescribed for you? That's very sad that you aren't being properly cared for.

    I make it a point to once in a while, stop taking my meds altogether, just to avoid addiction. Plus, I stick to what my doctor prescribes and don't add anything else.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Humorme View Post
    Here is the real irony:

    33,000 people die from firearms in the U.S. each year (this includes police actions, suicides, homicides, accidental shootings, etc.)

    50,000 people die due to drugs and we think if we legalize drugs, fewer people will die. If we criminalize guns, won't more people die from firearm deaths just like with illegal drugs?
    Legalizing drugs would not work, but decriminalization would. Using Portugal as model, it would make drug use a fine or free help. No one goes to jail except for dealers. Everytime I talk to a judge or politician, I point this out.

    It would mostly put an end to our current holocaust.
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