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    Quote Originally Posted by ptif219 View Post
    You make no sense
    It makes no sense of you don't know anything about the subject and instead, repeat what you heard on your AM radio.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Puzzling Evidence View Post
    Same question I asked Ptif219 WHAT IS YOUR BIG PLAIN?

    Do you not like the idea of insurance having to treat patients regardless of preexisting conditions? Is this the faulty aspect of "Obamacare?" Is it so horrible that healthcare can no longer murder people by telling telling them that they've reached their 2 million dollar cap? Were these the "death panels" that Republicans spoke of?

    Please stop choraling the stupid "if you like your doctor" shit.

    What else do we have???

    Oh, we haven't thought of a replacement, yet.....
    This is not about me, so stop it. No I myself do not have a BIG plan. Ideas are out there, have been out there for long time to change ACA for the better addressing the points I made.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mtm1963 View Post
    This is not about me, so stop it. No I myself do not have a BIG plan. Ideas are out there, have been out there for long time to change ACA for the better addressing the points I made.
    You avoided the question entirely, I did not make this about you, period. Quit whining and answer the question.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Babba View Post
    Young healthy people are going to avoid paying for health insurance. The insurance companies are going to end up with nothing but the sick and old. They will go bankrupt.
    Young people can stay on their parents plan thru age 25.

    Do you believe in choice? I do.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Djinn View Post
    Ok, I read your link:
    Never fall for Ptif219's shtick; his links are worthless crap. They have zero factually relevant information.

    Trump has no plan, he's stalling. He is not going to replace Obamacare, because the only other viable alternative will be universal coverage, which if Trump was smart, he would implement so that he could save face and yes, fix Obamacare by REPLACING IT.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Djinn View Post
    Op-Ed from the Chicago Tribune, excerpts:



    This would explain a lot. Republicans want to eliminate Obamacare not because of what it is, but because it's associated with a Democratic President. The only real alternatives are 1) the clusterfuck we had up until Obamacare, which allowed insurers to refuse payouts for "pre-existing conditions," or 2) a single-payer program, which Republicans have fought tooth and nail.

    This is why Republicans can't find a replacement for Obamacare - Chicago Tribune
    Those are not the only alternatives.

    Meanwhile, the left deserves to be beaten for the false narrative that if Obamacare is repealed, thousands will die uninsured.

    And sadly, chief offender on this is Bernie.

    Obamacare is a horrendous, wasteful, bad law that should be repealed or revised in the extreme.

    I am fucking sick of Democrats lying their asses off.

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    Before the ACA, New York state (or was it New York City) stopped insurance companies from denying people based on preexisting conditions.

    But they didn't have an insurance mandate to go with it.

    And that made their insurance terribly expensive, increasingly expensive as fewer healthy-ish people opted for insurance.

    That's why they were one of the few states who were able to post significant cost savings after the ACA went into effect.


    (I'm posting that from memory, because it's tough to search online, but I'm pretty sure I have that about right.)
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    Quote Originally Posted by mtm1963 View Post
    Young people can stay on their parents plan thru age 25.

    Do you believe in choice? I do.
    First of all, if the ACA is repealed that will no longer be true and second once they turn 26 many will opt not to pay for insurance.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Madeline View Post
    Those are not the only alternatives.

    Meanwhile, the left deserves to be beaten for the false narrative that if Obamacare is repealed, thousands will die uninsured.

    And sadly, chief offender on this is Bernie.

    Obamacare is a horrendous, wasteful, bad law that should be repealed or revised in the extreme.

    I am fucking sick of Democrats lying their asses off.
    Look, if we go back to the days of preexisting conditions, people will die because they will not get adequate care. How do you not understand this?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Babba View Post
    First of all, if the ACA is repealed that will no longer be true and second once they turn 26 many will opt not to pay for insurance.
    That part trump plans to keep along with the preexisting condition provision.

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