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    "This is why Republicans can't find a replacement for Obamacare"

    Op-Ed from the Chicago Tribune, excerpts:

    A key reason the Republican Party is having such a hard time with the replacement part of “repeal and replace” is that Obamacare is virtually the same privatized mandate plan it pushed for since President Richard Nixon first proposed the National Health Strategy in 1971 then again in 1974. Then the GOP revived its privatized mandate plan again in 1993 with then-Senate Minority Leader Bob Dole helping to propose the Health Equity and Access Reform Today act or HEART as the alternative to the proposed single-payer plan Health Security Act of 1993 — commonly known as “Hillarycare“ — and then again when then-Gov. Mitt Romney proposed — and succeeded in implementing — the Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act of 2006 in Massachusetts.

    Today's Affordable Care Act is very similar to the privatized mandate plan the Republicans pushed for 40 years. President Barack Obama — as a compromise to have basic health reform passed — used this same GOP blueprint with one significant change: adding a public option alongside the GOP’s privatized mandate plan (basically, Obama proposed adding an option to join a form of Medicare).
    This would explain a lot. Republicans want to eliminate Obamacare not because of what it is, but because it's associated with a Democratic President. The only real alternatives are 1) the clusterfuck we had up until Obamacare, which allowed insurers to refuse payouts for "pre-existing conditions," or 2) a single-payer program, which Republicans have fought tooth and nail.

    This is why Republicans can't find a replacement for Obamacare - Chicago Tribune

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    Quote Originally Posted by Djinn View Post
    Op-Ed from the Chicago Tribune, excerpts:



    This would explain a lot. Republicans want to eliminate Obamacare not because of what it is, but because it's associated with a Democratic President. The only real alternatives are 1) the clusterfuck we had up until Obamacare, which allowed insurers to refuse payouts for "pre-existing conditions," or 2) a single-payer program, which Republicans have fought tooth and nail.

    This is why Republicans can't find a replacement for Obamacare - Chicago Tribune
    Isn't this perfectly obvious?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Djinn View Post
    Op-Ed from the Chicago Tribune, excerpts:



    This would explain a lot. Republicans want to eliminate Obamacare not because of what it is, but because it's associated with a Democratic President. The only real alternatives are 1) the clusterfuck we had up until Obamacare, which allowed insurers to refuse payouts for "pre-existing conditions," or 2) a single-payer program, which Republicans have fought tooth and nail.

    This is why Republicans can't find a replacement for Obamacare - Chicago Tribune
    It does explain a lot.

    Everything remotely plausible that I've seen from Republicans so far has seemed awfully close to Obamacare, except that since they must make it LOOK different there are proposals which claim to be significant differences but are more complicated and accomplish less.

    It's like an industrial espionage case I know of from the early 1900's where someone stole plans for a sphere-rounding machine, and then tried to get a patent for it so that his new company would be able to use it "legally". To get the new patent, he tweaked the machine enough that it looked physically different. But how he tweaked it to make it look different caused it to not be as good at rounding spheres and it is theorized that the company had up to 50% waste before they finally, quietly, moved back to the more efficient construction of the earlier machine.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Djinn View Post
    Op-Ed from the Chicago Tribune, excerpts:



    This would explain a lot. Republicans want to eliminate Obamacare not because of what it is, but because it's associated with a Democratic President. The only real alternatives are 1) the clusterfuck we had up until Obamacare, which allowed insurers to refuse payouts for "pre-existing conditions," or 2) a single-payer program, which Republicans have fought tooth and nail.

    This is why Republicans can't find a replacement for Obamacare - Chicago Tribune
    More lies. It is a useless system that hurts people financially. Trump has a plan ready

    Trump reportedly insists healthcare replacement will have 'insurance for everybody' | Fox News

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    Quote Originally Posted by Djinn View Post
    Op-Ed from the Chicago Tribune, excerpts:



    This would explain a lot. Republicans want to eliminate Obamacare not because of what it is, but because it's associated with a Democratic President. The only real alternatives are 1) the clusterfuck we had up until Obamacare, which allowed insurers to refuse payouts for "pre-existing conditions," or 2) a single-payer program, which Republicans have fought tooth and nail.

    This is why Republicans can't find a replacement for Obamacare - Chicago Tribune
    I've said it before and I'll say it again, if the GOP could repeal the ACA and replace it with the exact same thing they'd high five each other and pat themselves on the back for solving healthcare in this country.

    So much about politics today is not about doing what's right. It's about finding a way to either take credit or assign blame so it's easier to either gain or hold power.

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    Why ACA is not liked that this letter failed to mention.

    You can keep your doctor. Millions were not able to.

    You will save 2500 dollars in premiums. Didn't happen.

    Being forced to buy insurance that you do want thus having to pay a penalty.

    The taxes imposed on certain aspects of healthcare.

    Premiums and deductibles sky rocketing.

    The letter suggests very strongly there is NO replacement plans which is not true.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ptif219 View Post
    More lies. It is a useless system that hurts people financially. Trump has a plan ready

    Trump reportedly insists healthcare replacement will have 'insurance for everybody' | Fox News
    OK, WHAT DO YOU HAVE that can replace it and HOW ARE YOU GOING TO DO IT?
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    Quote Originally Posted by ptif219 View Post
    More lies. It is a useless system that hurts people financially. Trump has a plan ready

    Trump reportedly insists healthcare replacement will have 'insurance for everybody' | Fox News
    Can you tell me any details about this plan?
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    Quote Originally Posted by mtm1963 View Post
    Why ACA is not liked that this letter failed to mention.
    You can keep your doctor. Millions were not able to.
    You will save 2500 dollars in premiums. Didn't happen.
    Being forced to buy insurance that you do want thus having to pay a penalty.
    The taxes imposed on certain aspects of healthcare.
    Premiums and deductibles sky rocketing.
    The letter suggests very strongly there is NO replacement plans which is not true.
    The mandate is unavoidable, if you want to prohibit insurers from rejecting people with "pre-existing conditions."
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    Also, before the ACA millions of people were unable to keep their doctors. Much fluctuation over any given year due to employers trying to get cheaper insurance or to people flat out losing their insurance.

    The ACA changed up the set of people who could and couldn't keep their doctors.
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