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    Quote Originally Posted by bajisima View Post
    Just read not long ago but northern PA and how since all the coal mines closed they area has been devastated. Now they are giving gas companies leases on their property to test and frack. One guy said they were paying him 4K a month just to dig. I guess they would rather frack?
    My cousin told me, the offer he was presented could set him up for the rest of his life. His house and property has been long paid for and this is just gravy. He is a teacher for the mentally disabled.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Babba View Post
    My FIL was born and raised in coal country in WV. He went into the mines at 17 for one day. He ran away and joined the Navy during WWII. He preferred his odds as a tail gunner. After the war he became a union carpenter and made a fine living. He never smoked and lived to the ripe old age of 84.
    My Dad worked in the mine after school when he was 13, outside shoveling coal into the trucks. He ran off to WWII to get out too. After he came home, he couldn't keep a job, constantly laid off, feast or famine. He migrated to Detroit after that. Worked in a auto company for awhile and hated factory work then lied on a application to drive a moving truck cross country. He told them he knew how to drive a semi, and figured it out all the way to NYC. Can you imagine being gutsy enough to do that? LOL He said by the time he entered Michigan on his way back, he knew how to drive a semi pretty well.
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    Quote Originally Posted by HCProf View Post
    My Dad worked in the mine after school when he was 13, outside shoveling coal into the trucks. He ran off to WWII to get out too. After he came home, he couldn't keep a job, constantly laid off, feast or famine. He migrated to Detroit after that. Worked in a auto company for awhile and hated factory work then lied on a application to drive a moving truck cross country. He told them he knew how to drive a semi, and figured it out all the way to NYC. Can you imagine being gutsy enough to do that? LOL He said by the time he entered Michigan on his way back, he knew how to drive a semi pretty well.
    Wow that's incredible, no way anyone could do that today with all the tests they have to pass.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bajisima View Post
    Wow that's incredible, no way anyone could do that today with all the tests they have to pass.
    This was the 60's...before regulation. I don't even think he had the proper drivers license to drive a semi. Later on he was promoted to dispatcher and warehouse manager so he could spend some time with his family. I don't think people today are brave enough to risk something like that. I love that story, because he had never been to a City like NYC in his life...little country boy navigating the streets of NYC in a semi truck and trailer.
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    Quote Originally Posted by HCProf View Post
    This was the 60's...before regulation. I don't even think he had the proper drivers license to drive a semi. Later on he was promoted to dispatcher and warehouse manager so he could spend some time with his family. I don't think people today are brave enough to risk something like that. I love that story, because he had never been to a City like NYC in his life...little country boy navigating the streets of NYC in a semi truck and trailer.
    People aren't brave enough because they know they never could get away with it. Plus the penalties would be severe.
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    This thread makes me think of that health package that was attempted to get passed during the last month of Obama's time. Extend benefits for black lung etc. GOP voted against it yet when Sen Manchin did his town hall last month, most of the miners said they trusted the GOP more to take care of them. Most of them cited social issues and guns as the biggest reasons. Even Manchin went on to say that if it wasn't the gun issue, a lot of this area would still be democratic. He claims that's why he keeps his seat because he is pro NRA. Such a disconnect.
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    I wonder if technology has improved now to the point that they have scrubbers and masks that help prevent Black Lung disease? I do not know. If not, the workers should demand it.

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    Hey, how about those illegal immigrants that will take a job that American's won't?

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    Does not speak well of obama's OSHA. another obama failure.

    it takes up to 8 years for Black Lung to manifest itself. hmmm

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    Quote Originally Posted by bajisima View Post
    This thread makes me think of that health package that was attempted to get passed during the last month of Obama's time. Extend benefits for black lung etc. GOP voted against it yet when Sen Manchin did his town hall last month, most of the miners said they trusted the GOP more to take care of them. Most of them cited social issues and guns as the biggest reasons. Even Manchin went on to say that if it wasn't the gun issue, a lot of this area would still be democratic. He claims that's why he keeps his seat because he is pro NRA. Such a disconnect.
    I brought back this thread instead of creating a new one...And your post seems a perfect place to do so.

    here is the latest on your post.

    Coal Miners are worried that Trumpcare will drop Obamacare Black Lung benefits.

    On December 15, NPR reported a recent surge in advanced black lung cases throughout Appalachia. Data obtained from 11 black lung clinics across Virginia, West Virginia, Pennsylvania, and Ohio pointed to at least 962 cases of progressive massive fibrosis in the last decade alone, with one small clinic in Kentucky reporting 60 over the last 20 months. The disease is horrible. Years of inhaling coal dust eventually results in decreased lung function to such a degree that workers cannot take more than a few steps without losing their breath. In rural areas that are already economically depressed, the inability to work can result in financial catastrophe for families.

    Luckily, Obamacare included three provisions that made it much easier for coal workers and their spouses to collect disability benefits related to the disease — both medical and financial. Before the Affordable Care Act, collecting benefits for black lung was “almost impossible” as prospective recipients had to meet a high burden of proof showing they contracted the disease through their years spent in the mines. However, with his promise to repeal the ACA, President-elect Donald Trump is poised to Make Black Lung Benefits Impossible To Obtain Again.
    Coal country Trump voters worried about losing Obamacare as black lung cases surge


    Obamacare Black Lung protections are not the only the only Obamacare benefits that may be lost to miners.

    How sad those needing the most help and voted for Trump to give them hope have nothing but worries with their vote.
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