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    I feel that a person have the right to smoke and should not be discriminated against. I'm a very sensitive to smoke, bees, pollen, on ..On..On in fact I carry an EpiPen with me 24/7. It's aggravating when a self righteous individuals make snide remarks or looks, when a smoker in a designated space specifically designed for that function or outdoors. I'm​ also bothered by a smoker right in front of an entrance blowing smoke. It all comes down to respect for others and being a decent human being. I do appreciate non smoking restaurants, clubs, entertainment places because of my physical sensitivity.
    For the people who use electronic cigarettes, vamping whatever you want to call it is fine as long you do not believe you have the right to infringe on non smokers rights.
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    I can tell from experience, there is a complete difference healthwise. No longer coughing up dark phlegm in the morning that I did when smoking cigarettes.

    Cigarettes have 1000s of toxins and other shit, and smells. Vaporizers are less. not healthy, just better.
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    I have my personal bias since my mother died way to early from lung cancer and my daughter missed all those important moments because of her addiction.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NightSwimmer View Post
    The danger of exposure to second hand cigarette smoke has been greatly exaggerated.
    Seems so.

    Secondhand smoke isn?t as bad as we thought.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bajisima View Post
    Yup, just gave people a bs reason to treat cig smokers like trash because they don't like the smell. The ridiculous thing is when they try to ban outdoors, or entire campuses. Sorry, can't claim the secondhand smoke card in millions of cubic feet of air around you.

    LIke everybody else doesn't have to deal with smells from other people, their disgusting foods, bad breath, BO, cheap or overly applied perfume or cologne, etc.

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    Smoking or Vaping=soothers for adults=adults should be ashamed of themselves that they need soothers of any kind=orally fixated= unable to keep calm or focused without something in their mouth. SAD

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dr Sampson Simpson View Post
    Yup, just gave people a bs reason to treat cig smokers like trash because they don't like the smell. The ridiculous thing is when they try to ban outdoors, or entire campuses. Sorry, can't claim the secondhand smoke card in millions of cubic feet of air around you.

    LIke everybody else doesn't have to deal with smells from other people, their disgusting foods, bad breath, BO, cheap or overly applied perfume or cologne, etc.
    If people were really concerned about what they're breathing, then they'd go after the operation of internal combustion engines in public spaces, rather than cigarette smokers. It's all about creating a group of second class citizens to whom they can feel superior and enjoy hating without social repercussion.
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    Quote Originally Posted by StanStill View Post
    Agreed. The whole second hand smoke mythology was mostly a way for people—angry that they couldn't force other people to be healthier—to convince themselves that even the smell of smoke was making them sick too. This way they aren't being bossy, they were defending themselves. I've even heard several people convinced that second hand smoke is more dangerous than first hand smoke, and they were serious. It boggles the mind that people could convince themselves of such horseshit. ...
    There's more to it than that...

    Before smoking was banned in restaurants, I could "feel" the effects of someone lighting up across the room long before I saw it, or smelled the smoke. My throat would start to itch, and at that point I knew that someone had just started smoking a cigarette. When I'm outside, and I have to walk past a clot of huddled smokers, I make a point of taking a deep breath and holding it until I pass them. Not sure if it's an allergy of some sort, but the burning sensation is very real.

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    For sure, a smoke filled bar smells gross and the smell sticks... so, that part is nice.

    Just the hysteria about it gets over the top.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Djinn View Post
    There's more to it than that...

    Before smoking was banned in restaurants, I could "feel" the effects of someone lighting up across the room long before I saw it, or smelled the smoke. My throat would start to itch, and at that point I knew that someone had just started smoking a cigarette. When I'm outside, and I have to walk past a clot of huddled smokers, I make a point of taking a deep breath and holding it until I pass them. Not sure if it's an allergy of some sort, but the burning sensation is very real.
    Maybe more, but not much more. I can "feel" the effects of the perfume section of the department store, and I do much as you do and take a deep preparatory breath before I "go under" and hopefully make it to the other side without needing to breathe in. Luckily, it's about as unhealthy as second hand smoke. I don't know if it is technically an allergy, but I did have asthma as a child, so it might be related to that. Also, it's probably a little bit psychosomatic. I anticipate hating the overwhelming scent of 100s of perfumes in the air, and if I do breathe it in I feel a reaction.

    Regardless, I don't think those counters should be shut down because some people might get an asthmatic reaction. They should just avoid those places.
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