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Motherforkers trying to get rid of vapes. FDA Ban on Vaping: The Ugly Truth
But the RJ Reynolds rep said that they JUST came out with vapor products. She hopes that means they have inside intel that the law will not go into effect.
However, this does sayThis refers to patches and gum, but perhaps big tobacco will win to have their nicotine in vapes too?If your company’s name is Pfizer or Johnson & Johnson, your tobacco-derived nicotine is a safe, non-addictive medicine. If your name is Joe’s Vape Juice, you’re a producer of deadly addictive poison that is a menace to society.
I'm going to buy ALOT of cartridges in advance of august........
If your company’s name is Pfizer or Johnson & Johnson, your tobacco-derived nicotine is a safe, non-addictive medicine. If your name is Joe’s Vape Juice, you’re a producer of deadly addictive poison that is a menace to society.
Not sure I understand what's wrong with the FDA's stance. Vaping fluid is a product marketed for human consumption. It doesn't matter whether it's eaten, smoked, inhaled, or injected. It's still a consumable product, and the FDA is treating it fairly - like any other consumable product.
What these ninnies should do is band together, and look at similar products. For example - breakfast cereal. Go to your supermarket, and look at the store brands for breakfast cereal. There's probably a dozen different cereals, all sorts of flavors. Do you think that the store chain spends $1M+ on every variety of cereal in order to obtain FDA approval? Of course not. There is a list of FDA-approved ingredients cleared for use in breakfast cereal. Stick to the list, and you can make whatever cereal you want.
Vaping fluid manufacturers should collectively take the same approach. Get a list approved - and stick to it.
Best Vape Juice & Cartomizer Flavors | Vapor4lifeVapor producing agent propylene glycol
Vapor producing agent vegetable glycerin
Is there anything on that list that is unfamiliar?
@Madeline I thought I'd bring our vaping convo here. It's ad odd thing. I feel like I get a 'straight shot' of nicotine from the vape. Satisfying the craving better than a cig, and yet I guess there are other addictive additives and/or it's just still a little different than the cig so I think I want cigs part of the time.
It doesn't make you go oh! I never want a cig again! But, again oddly, after a few cigs i'm like these suck. They just burn away in the ashtray. and I have to feel all this other in my lungs to get the nic. so then I only want the vape for many hours!
As I said I am a hard-core long-term smoker so I know that doesn't mean it will work for everyone but I never thought anything would work for me. And I tried e-cigs before and was like bleh. These are worthless. I spent I think $80 several years ago on one of those. Supposed to be really good.
But this one is good (to me anyway, and the smoker at the store that convinced me to try. He was puffing on his and said he had a hard time before this kind came along too.)
Maybe because this is made by RJ Reynolds and they know what smokers want? IDK. More nicotine in them? just guessing.
Maybe someone else will weigh in.
Sometimes I 'hot box' the vape. And then cough and put it down lol. I started smoking more after my mother died. I was very close to literal chain smoking. So I chain vape.
you can't hold it in your hand like a cig. Mine is in my mouth when I am at the pc. Holding with my teeth. When I am out and about it's in my pocket or purse and I take a few puffs sometimes - here is the really cool thing. I forget to use it when I am out and about. Not the case with cigs.
My Dad always said to me 'you're panic smoking'. Headed towards a place I can't smoke I'm trying to get some extra nic in but that doesn't work.
No need to panic with this. It's with me all the time.