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    Mayo to give preference to privately insured patients over Medicaid patients

    This is why "free market" health care is an abomination. Profits over human lives. It's immoral.

    Mayo Clinic’s chief executive made a startling announcement in a recent speech to employees: The Rochester-based health system will give preference to patients with private insurance over those with lower-paying Medicaid or Medicare coverage, if they seek care at the same time and have comparable conditions.
    Mayo to give nod to privately insured over Medicaid patients - StarTribune.com

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    Quote Originally Posted by Babba View Post
    This is why "free market" health care is an abomination. Profits over human lives. It's immoral.



    Mayo to give nod to privately insured over Medicaid patients - StarTribune.com
    I have seen this happen many times. Some are a little more subtle about it. For example, ambulances are supposed to take a patient to the closest hospital, but they are also required to inquire about insurance because of managed care contracts. When the squad calls ahead and alerts the ER that one is coming in...it is not unusual for a hospital like the Cleveland Clinic to say their ER is full and divert them to a safety net hospital. This is why the hospital I work, has a jumping full ER at any time of the day.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Babba View Post
    This is why "free market" health care is an abomination. Profits over human lives. It's immoral.



    Mayo to give nod to privately insured over Medicaid patients - StarTribune.com
    Ms. Babba,

    You say that like it's a bad thing.

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    Our medical group does that as well. A lot of doctors do, they don't "advertise" it but of course they do.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HCProf View Post
    I have seen this happen many times. Some are a little more subtle about it. For example, ambulances are supposed to take a patient to the closest hospital, but they are also required to inquire about insurance because of managed care contracts. When the squad calls ahead and alerts the ER that one is coming in...it is not unusual for a hospital like the Cleveland Clinic to say their ER is full and divert them to a safety net hospital. This is why the hospital I work, has a jumping full ER at any time of the day.
    When I lived down in Massachusetts, there was one hospital that the local sports teams, politicians, celebrity wealthier types used. They never liked to take Medicaid and there were stories that they would divert ambulances or if you walked into an ER on Medicaid, they would claim they had no room and send you to another hospital. Have also heard stories recently that some policies on the exchanges get the same treatment. If you have a massive deductible they assume you wont be able to pay when the bill comes due so they can send you elsewhere.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bajisima View Post
    When I lived down in Massachusetts, there was one hospital that the local sports teams, politicians, celebrity wealthier types used. They never liked to take Medicaid and there were stories that they would divert ambulances or if you walked into an ER on Medicaid, they would claim they had no room and send you to another hospital. Have also heard stories recently that some policies on the exchanges get the same treatment. If you have a massive deductible they assume you wont be able to pay when the bill comes due so they can send you elsewhere.
    The only way around that is single payer.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kallie Knoetze View Post
    Ms. Babba,

    You say that like it's a bad thing.
    For profit healthcare is a bad thing, just like for profit water, electricity and fire and police service.
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    Quote Originally Posted by OldGaffer View Post
    For profit healthcare is a bad thing, just like for profit water, electricity and fire and police service.
    Mr. Gaffer,

    For profit health care pays for innovation, building new facilities, hiring of staff, etc. That's why you get a better level of care in private hospitals than in public.

    By the by, you do know that electric utilities, and water companies are in it to make money, right? They don't provide that service for free.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Babba View Post
    The only way around that is single payer.
    Even that can be manipulated to an extent. Wealthier people are going to want certain hospitals for themselves. No riff raff. I fear it will end up a lot like public education. The wealthier communities will have great doctors and nurses and the best equipment while the poorer areas will have what's left over. We have a serious caste problem here in the US, there is no way in hell a CEO is going to wait in an ER behind a poor heroin addict. No way.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bajisima View Post
    Even that can be manipulated to an extent. Wealthier people are going to want certain hospitals for themselves. No riff raff. I fear it will end up a lot like public education. The wealthier communities will have great doctors and nurses and the best equipment while the poorer areas will have what's left over. We have a serious caste problem here in the US, there is no way in hell a CEO is going to wait in an ER behind a poor heroin addict. No way.
    There aren't enough wealthy people. There are a whole lot more of us than them. I'm sure it happens to a point in Canada, but most of the care is pretty damn democratic.
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