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    Quote Originally Posted by HCProf View Post
    One of the most horrific sights you will ever see, is to watch a newborn withdraw from addictive drugs. This should be treated as a crime and women who bring a life into this world fully addicted to opioids, crack, heroin, should be arrested upon discharge from the hospital. These babies are never the same and suffer from the effects their entire lives with learning disabilities, physical disabilities, etc. This is a form of abuse before the baby even starts its life. Another embarrassing story for women. Now we will have syphilis babies. Throw them in jail and let them withdraw like their poor infant is doing.
    This is what they have done with women and still do , is put them in jail for being addicted to drugs. That is very shortsighted because women will not go to hospitals or doctors for fear of being put in jail. They should be given help

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    Quote Originally Posted by Isalexi View Post
    This is what they have done with women and still do , is put them in jail for being addicted to drugs. That is very shortsighted because women will not go to hospitals or doctors for fear of being put in jail. They should be given help
    I'd say we need an array of remedies. Different women will respond to methadone, or to residential drug treatment, but not all. Hardcore addicts may need to be imprisoned.

    None of this is easy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Isalexi View Post
    This is what they have done with women and still do , is put them in jail for being addicted to drugs. That is very shortsighted because women will not go to hospitals or doctors for fear of being put in jail. They should be given help
    I am so sick of seeing this. Those poor little babies suffer like animals and there is no need for that. Drug addicted women are selfish, they know they are carrying a life and they know they have options. Even drug addicted, a person has moments of clarity and know the difference between right and wrong. Women need to be responsible to themselves for they are adults. Back in the 80's when my friends were starting families, if they smoked cigarettes, they stopped when they were pregnant, they stopped smoking pot, and they stopped drinking alcohol. Today, we feel sorry for these women and excuse their stupidity away. I have zero sympathy for any woman who puts a innocent infant through withdrawal and ruins their life before it even starts. Addictive drugs are a choice and when you bring an innocent life into it is disgusting. I feel empathy for a lot of people...but this one is my line in the sand. Motherhood is a honor and babies are precious gifts. This is one of the reasons I support abortion 100%...for the baby would be much better off without a Mother like that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by EnigmaO01 View Post
    What about the politicians and a president that don't want to fund help for addicts to get off drugs?
    Trump has only been there for 9 weeks so this is on obama.

    One more failure to add to his list.

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    Quote Originally Posted by splansing View Post
    I understand the sentiment, just not sure what it helps. Now I've got mom in jail on my dime and the kid in our god-awful shitty state-sanctioned abuse system also on my dime. That kid will stand a pretty good chance of growing up to become yet another baby-spawning drug addict criminal.

    God what do you do? I really don't know.

    How about some sort of kibbutz? Put the mom and the baby in together. Run it like a commune, as self-sufficient as possible. You work, you rehab, you learn how to raise your baby. Staff the place with as many women in possible, including the top three positions or something. I don't know. I really don't. Just trying.
    We could also decriminalize drugs and offer more help to those who are addicted instead of constantly threatening them so that they dont come forward and cant get help. We should also put a leash on the pharma's who are helping to addict people via doctors. Lets stop allowing the doctors to become drug dealers and allow them to get back to MEDICAL care.


    We have to realize we cant "punish" every social issue away, sometimes people need HELP and ASSISTANCE and not some punishment (and punishment doesnt work like so many americans wish to believe).

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    Quote Originally Posted by HCProf View Post
    I am so sick of seeing this. Those poor little babies suffer like animals and there is no need for that. Drug addicted women are selfish, they know they are carrying a life and they know they have options. Even drug addicted, a person has moments of clarity and know the difference between right and wrong. Women need to be responsible to themselves for they are adults. Back in the 80's when my friends were starting families, if they smoked cigarettes, they stopped when they were pregnant, they stopped smoking pot, and they stopped drinking alcohol. Today, we feel sorry for these women and excuse their stupidity away. I have zero sympathy for any woman who puts a innocent infant through withdrawal and ruins their life before it even starts. Addictive drugs are a choice and when you bring an innocent life into it is disgusting. I feel empathy for a lot of people...but this one is my line in the sand. Motherhood is a honor and babies are precious gifts. This is one of the reasons I support abortion 100%...for the baby would be much better off without a Mother like that.
    Addiction isnt a choice, mental health issues arent a choice...and the attitude you display there is why many women wont come forward, wont get help.....and certainly that much hatred only deepens addiction and gives them nothing to sober up for, it only gives them motivation to lose themselves in a drug induced haze to escape all that hate and shame.

    Maybe instead of indulging our own anger, we should seek effective ways to impact the problem (and it wont be 100% fixed, humans are fallible and we are still unlocking the mechanisms of addiction).
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    Quote Originally Posted by Madeline View Post
    I'd say we need an array of remedies. Different women will respond to methadone, or to residential drug treatment, but not all. Hardcore addicts may need to be imprisoned.

    None of this is easy.
    addiction is a health issue, there is no reason to lock up addicts for being addicts.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Madeline View Post
    Syphilis Rate Among Newborns Reaches Highest Level in Years

    This is a public health crisis, and needs a public health response. Not the best time to be eliminating programs for women's health or slashing insurance coverage.

    What say you?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kontrary View Post
    Addiction isnt a choice, mental health issues arent a choice...and the attitude you display there is why many women wont come forward, wont get help.....and certainly that much hatred only deepens addiction and gives them nothing to sober up for, it only gives them motivation to lose themselves in a drug induced haze to escape all that hate and shame.

    Maybe instead of indulging our own anger, we should seek effective ways to impact the problem (and it wont be 100% fixed, humans are fallible and we are still unlocking the mechanisms of addiction).
    You expect empathy from a right winger? They are completely void of it
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    Interesting since the number one source for screening for STDs, does not have a CLIA Approved lab and cannot PERFORM STD screening, Planned parenthood has women believing they have been screened for Cancer and STDs, and they do not screen.

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